Grassroots Football Coaches - Advice Please

Jonny_H

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Hi all,

I run a kids football team that play in a weekend league.

We have 2 teams at this age group. It's worth noting that 'technically' they are both mixed ability teams - there is no official 'First and Second team' and it's rare that players move between the 2.

However, one of the teams (Mine) do play at a lot higher level. Its factual. The league have placed us in a higher division and when we play friendlies between the 2 teams, my team often beat the other by a big goal difference.

The problem - the club is very much a "every child gets a chance" regardless of abilities, which I understand. However, we have 2 new kids training with us, that had never played before in any capacity, and they've been assigned to my team and their parents are pushing for us to sign them on and play in matches.

They would be much more suited to our other team given the level they play at etc, but they have a full squad and can't accommodate anymore players.

I'm all for giving every child a chance but I just don't see any benefit in any way by putting these 2 players into matches in my team. They'll struggle in games, it'll stand out a mile that they aren't at that level, the team will therefore struggle, results won't go our way, we'll likely end up being moved down divisions, and likely to lose a couple of the better players. (I've seen this happen many times) and it'll basically be a big step backwards on what we've worked on as coaches.

Now I know there's other clubs in the league that do have A and B teams etc and the shift players around based on ability etc but we don't do that and the club aren't interested in doing that, which is a shame because I actually think our club are holding themselves back because of this.

I'm actually pretty new to this myself and tbh I'm not sure what advice I'm after here, except hoping someone has been in the same situation and can give their experience. I kind of feel the club have stitched us up a bit here and we as volunteer coaches either have to take the hit on performances/results etc or be the bad guys and tell the parents that their kids just aren't good enough players for our team. The club have kind of left us to it on this and sadly I don't think they'll back our decision if we were to tell them they aren't at the right level of ability for our team.

Sorry if I sound like an a***hole here btw, I don't want to hold any child back etc, but I'm just struggling to see what benefit this is going to add. I actually don't care about winning games, I just want our group to have competitive matches win or lose, but I feel it wont be competitive if I have to start giving these 2 the same game time as our more experienced players given we're only 5 a side at this age.

It just kind of feels whats the point. we're going to ruin everything we've worked on and as a volunteer, I honestly don't need the stress and cr4p thats going to come of it all.

UPDATE: Our other team (that play at a lower ability) are going to take them for the time being as they have players at a similar level anyway so training will be much more suited all round.

Tbh neither team has capacity to get them into a match day squad, purely from a numbers perspective and giving the existing squads a good amount of minutes. The parents were made aware of this when they first joined anyway - but off the back of this the club are going to look into having a 3rd team - but likely to be from next season given were in the back half of the current season.

Thanks for everyones responses - I appreciate it.
 
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I have no experience or knowledge of this but couldn't those 2 new players move to the other team and 2 of the better players from that team move to yours? Would probably be beneficial to all concerned.
 
I have no experience or knowledge of this but couldn't those 2 new players move to the other team and 2 of the better players from that team move to yours? Would probably be beneficial to all concerned.
Thats what I've suggested but the coaches aren't interested in doing so (probably for same concerns I have) and the club don't see why we would do this, given their stance is we have 'mixed ability teams' anyway. i appreciate where they are coming from but just dont think it's helpful or beneficial for anyone.
 
Hi all,

I run a kids football team that play in a weekend league.

We have 2 teams at this age group. It's worth noting that 'technically' they are both mixed ability teams - there is no official 'First and Second team' and it's rare that players move between the 2.

However, one of the teams (Mine) do play at a lot higher level. Its factual. The league have placed us in a higher division and when we play friendlies between the 2 teams, my team often beat the other by a big goal difference.

The problem - the club is very much a "every child gets a chance" regardless of abilities, which I understand. However, we have 2 new kids training with us, that had never played before in any capacity, and they've been assigned to my team and their parents are pushing for us to sign them on and play in matches.

They would be much more suited to our other team given the level they play at etc, but they have a full squad and can't accommodate anymore players.

I'm all for giving every child a chance but I just don't see any benefit in any way by putting these 2 players into matches in my team. They'll struggle in games, it'll stand out a mile that they aren't at that level, the team will therefore struggle, results won't go our way, we'll likely end up being moved down divisions, and likely to lose a couple of the better players. (I've seen this happen many times) and it'll basically be a big step backwards on what we've worked on as coaches.

Now I know there's other clubs in the league that do have A and B teams etc and the shift players around based on ability etc but we don't do that and the club aren't interested in doing that, which is a shame because I actually think our club are holding themselves back because of this.

I'm actually pretty new to this myself and tbh I'm not sure what advice I'm after here, except hoping someone has been in the same situation and can give their experience. I kind of feel the club have stitched us up a bit here and we as volunteer coaches either have to take the hit on performances/results etc or be the bad guys and tell the parents that their kids just aren't good enough players for our team. The club have kind of left us to it on this and sadly I don't think they'll back our decision if we were to tell them they aren't at the right level of ability for our team.

Sorry if I sound like an a***hole here btw, I don't want to hold any child back etc, but I'm just struggling to see what benefit this is going to add. I actually don't care about winning games, I just want our group to have competitive matches win or lose, but I feel it wont be competitive if I have to start giving these 2 the same game time as our more experienced players given we're only 5 a side at this age.

It just kind of feels whats the point. we're going to ruin everything we've worked on and as a volunteer, I honestly don't need the stress and cr4p thats going to come of it all.


Tough job mate but thankfully there are people like yourself willing to take the challenge on, good luck pal.
 
When I was a kid we had an A & B team that ended up in the same league. The A team finished in the bottom of half of the table and my team the B team won the league and the cup. As we were then in a higher division they started mixing the teams round, putting the "better" players from the A team in the B team. Anyway, people left (including myself) as the A team was full of nobheads who thought they were better than they were, the thing that got the B team promoted was the team spirit that got decimated with the changes.

Thing is, I have sympathy for your situation because as they are new players that situation is totally different, but if you swap for two of the better players from the other team it might upset the balance.
 
Be honest with the parents and tell them whilst they have lovely kids they are going to be playing at a level that they won’t be able to compete in. Let them train with the squad and show the parents what you mean. It may be that their kids can’t keep up with the running or have the skills to be able to do a drill etc. Suggest that whilst you would like to sign them on they would get limited playing time and they would be better suited to another club (suggest a couple they could contact).
 
What age group are you mate? I coached a team from 5 years old to 16. It was the very best and very worst thing I ever committed to.

I feel your frustration.

The reason I ask the age group is that at certain ages, you play 2 matches against the same opponent on a Sunday.

If this is the case, go all out for the win in the first game and then play the lesser players in the second.

Explain to your kids, their parents, the new kids, their parents and the club that this is your plan and stick to it.

I had a lad who didn’t appear interested in playing at 13. On signing on night, I spoke to him and his Mum and said that unless his approach to training and matches improved, his game time would be limited. Within the year, he was a starter in my league winning team and the year after, started again in a cup final. He was a skinny right footer playing left back.

I think as long as everyone involved knows what your intentions are, you can go about the task with a clear conscience.
 

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