Gundogan - Back training 26th June '17

I like Gundogan, but you do tend to find that if you buy players who have been out for ages with a back injury, and have some on-going nightmare knee dislocation when they sign, it is not exactly the mother of all shocks when they get another long-termer
 
geoff clipp said:
To be honest though, I doubt the club would want to recall him even if they were allowed to. He's having a good season in the championship but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near the standard we require right now. If he wasn't a city player I doubt anyone on here would be clambering for us to get him. Maybe he will get a chance to prove himself here but being drafted in midseason isn't the best set of circumstances for him to settle in a perform at his best.
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As an Australian blue, I have followed him for the last few years watching him play for Melbourne and the national team. He is not in the same realm as Fernandinho, Yaya and Gundogan. However he offers far more going forward than Fernando, and unlike Delph isn't crocked. He would make a great squad player, and he is home grown. To write him because it's 'only the championship' is a bit disingenuous. If you've read the interviews with him his loan to Huddersfield was to get him used to the English game again, give him the legs to last a season, with a view to then see if he was ready for the City squad next summer. This is mutually beneficial as it gives Mooy a chance (whether he passes or fails is up to him) and it illustrates a pathway for Australian players. If we can show that you can transition from Melbourne to Manchester City, then Melbourne city becomes a destination club of choice for aspiring Australian talent. Arguments have been made that that is why Bruce Kamau signed for Melbourne this year, and if it means the City get first refusal on the next Kewell, Viduka, Cahill, Grella, Neil, Emerton, Bresciano, Schwarzer, Bosnich or even Tiatto then there is pay off there.

There are two reasons why I think we would consider bringing this forward
  • Our need for more depth in midfield.
  • Rumours about Wagner leaving Huddersfield, although this seems to have been shot down of late.
If Wagner leaves, I think it would be the right deal to recall him early and see if he sinks or swims.
 
blueju said:
Yeah he lasted about two games didn't he? Then he came back and lasted one more. Same as limps for the last two years.Christ we've had some bad luck with injuries over the years
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To be fair the Boj was not signed with an ongoing injury like the others mentioned. He just got injured as soon as he stepped off the plane.
 
The amount of injury prone players we have signed since the take over is shocking. We never seem to learn.

RSC
Delph
Hargreaves
Gundogan
Rodwell

Even boetang got injured on the plane on route to us.

I'm sure there's more but they immediately sprung to mind.
 
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HolisticJim said:
The amount of injury prone players we have signed since the take over is shocking. We never seem to learn.

RSC
Delph
Hargreaves
Gundogan
Rodwell

Even boetang got injured on the plane on route to us.

I'm sure there's more but they immediately sprung to mind.
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Jovetic

I am not sure who takes the award for being the most annoying. For example, Hargreaves being injured was not annoying because we knew he would be. It was just expected.

Bojinov being out for a year and then getting injured warming up, was just so pathetic it was actually funny.

Delph is certainly in the running for the award.
 
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HolisticJim said:
The amount of injury prone players we have signed since the take over is shocking. We never seem to learn.

RSC
Delph
Hargreaves
Gundogan
Rodwell

Even boetang got injured on the plane on route to us.

I'm sure there's more but they immediately sprung to mind.
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We've signed 70 players since the takeover. You've come up with 5 injury prone players. The obvious other one is Vincent Kompany.

So that's 1 in 12 players are injury prone.

I don't think it's an issue at all. They're cheap and if they come off you get someone like Kompany.
 
HolisticJim said:
The amount of injury prone players we have signed since the take over is shocking. We never seem to learn.

RSC
Delph
Hargreaves
Gundogan
Rodwell

Even boetang got injured on the plane on route to us.

I'm sure there's more but they immediately sprung to mind.
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Footballers get injured at every single club.

To sum up, stop talking shite!
 
domalino said:
We've signed 70 players since the takeover. You've come up with 5 injury prone players. The obvious other one is Vincent Kompany.

So that's 1 in 12 players are injury prone.

I don't think it's an issue at all. They're cheap and if they come off you get someone like Kompany.
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Another one who can't read the post correctly.

What it said was - the amount of players we have signed since te taker over who were/are injury prone.

Kompany wasn't injury prone when we signed him and was signed prior to the takeover.

I've never known a club sign so many players with KNOWN issues before we even signed them!

People can argue all the want but who else would have signed RSC or Hargreaves for e.g.? Let alone some of the other gems.
 
Burtonblue said:
His hamstrings tendons have probably already been harvested to reconstruct the medial patello-femoral ligament when he had his knee cap stabilisation in May. They do reform.
Don't buy the stuff about his ACL being bought forward by his previous surgery...
He's just been really unlucky with this one.
He will probably have a patella tendon graft anyway for his ACL reconstruction it provides a stronger graft that the hamstring tendons. Depends on surgeon choice that.
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There are pros & cons to graft selection and as you say, it's surgeon dependent. It's the same knee which will undoubtedly lead to concerns about the long-term stability of the knee but his rehab will surely need to minimize any lumbar strain. As Pep already pointed out, he will be out for awhile
 
HolisticJim said:
Another one who can't read the post correctly.

What it said was - the amount of players we have signed since te taker over who were/are injury prone.

Kompany wasn't injury prone when we signed him and was signed prior to the takeover.

I've never known a club sign so many players with KNOWN issues before we even signed them!

People can argue all the want but who else would have signed RSC or Hargreaves for e.g.? Let alone some of the other gems.
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Kompany wasn't injury prone? Complete fiction.

Last season at Anderlecht, misses 20 league games from a back injury.

He missed 28 league games in hist first season for Hamburg because of an Achilles injury.

He missed 12 league games the next season.

Kompany has been injury prone since he was a teenager.
 
Manchester City midfielder Ilkay Gundogan has undergone surgery after suffering a serious knee injury. Gundogan, who joined City from Borussia Dortmund for £20m in June, limped off in tears in his side's 2-0 win over Watford on 14 December. He is likely to be out of action for several months
 
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Talented player, nice guy. Good luck with his recovery, hopefully he'll return stronger.
 
You can't fault his work rate IMO, really hope he comes back stronger. I'm sure he's frustrated by the injury and just wants to get back to playing. He's definitely a good addition IMO.
 
geoff clipp said:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...s-long-term-injuries-gundogan-manchester-city

Thought this was an interesting read about players recovering from similar injuries. It's also a little bit kinder towards us regarding Gundogan shirt tribute!
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I was at the Watford game and as I recall our 2 physios came on to attend to Gundogan as he went to ground ( the first time ) after the usual consultation between player/medical staff/ management it was decided he was fit to continue - about 7 or 8 minutes later he broke down and was carried off with a serious injury - surely this was a serious error of judgement - especially involving a player who has had so long out of the game recently - any other blues at the game notice this
 
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