Haaland's disallowed goal

[BlueMonkey79]

Can't get my head around the camera angles.

If you get a piece of card and line it up with the edge of the 18 yard box and pull it backwards towards the last defender, keeping it straight and parralel to the edge of the 18 yard line. Haaland is onside!

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

They would still be fouls, of course, but not always a red card, hence my "context" comment.

They would be if they stopped a direct shot on goal, as Cancelo did.

 

[lancs blue]

They would be if they stopped a direct shot on goal, as Cancelo did.

That was precisely the point I made! Re-read my post, about the context.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That was precisely the point I made! Re-read my post, about the context.

Any challenge that is mistimed and is a DOGSO will be a red card, unless the referee decides there was a genuine attempt at getting the ball if a. Penalty is awarded too.

If you mistime a shoulder charge and iIt becomes a push in the back, it’ll be given as a red card all day long if the player has a a scoring option denied.

It’s the way the law is worded. Genuine attempt to win the ball.

I get what you are saying, but if you challenge with your arm and shove a player over, it will never be given as a genuine attempt to win the ball. The players all know this too.

 

[lancs blue]

Any challenge that is mistimed and is a DOGSO will be a red card, unless the referee decides there was a genuine attempt at getting the ball if a. Penalty is awarded too.

If you mistime a shoulder charge and iIt becomes a push in the back, it’ll be given as a red card all day long if the player has a a scoring option denied.

It’s the way the law is worded. Genuine attempt to win the ball.

I get what you are saying, but if you challenge with your arm and shove a player over, it will never be given as a genuine attempt to win the ball. The players all know this too.

No, you don't get what I'm saying at all. I'm not the one who was arguing that it was an incorrect decision, that was the poster I responded to. See my original post on this thread on p4.

 

[Metalartin]

That was precisely the point I made! Re-read my post, about the context.

That's my point too, we are not disagreeing on most of it. Where did I say it wasn't a foul? Where did I say it's not the letter of the law? I didn't, I gave an opinion about the law itself.

It isn't always a red card, if you are deemed to be making an attempt to play the ball... Which a shoulder challenge never can be(consider that point properly), even though it's not an attempt to foul, just the same as a sliding challenge isn't. So you are really being punished more for what type of challenge you are making.

An outstretch arms push, a pull of the shirt as described in the DOGSO law are easy examples because the intent there is not a fair challenge from the outset(you've chosen to foul). A shoulder to shoulder attempt is different(I don't think there's any doubt that was what was attempted) but I suppose it's not worth changing the law on, it only seems to make things more complicated. We should tell our players don't bother trying that centrally and tell Cancelo to play things safer in general(overestimates his chances a lot).

 

[lancs blue]

Let's just agree that the rags are shite. :-)

 

[Gray]

On the end of DeBruyne’s foot?

Is it a trick question?

Sorry mate i just can’t see it in that shot.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Can't get my head around the camera angles.

If you get a piece of card and line it up with the edge of the 18 yard box and pull it backwards towards the last defender, keeping it straight and parralel to the edge of the 18 yard line. Haaland is onside!

It can’t be a parallel line with the edge of the 18 yard box because of perspective.

Not one of these lines is parallel with any other next to it


They are all linearly widening as they get nearer to us and that’s the same thing with VAR offside lines. They work off a fixed point in the distance probably as far away as Clayton or Droylsden in-line with the half-way line , not a straight line near the incident.

We’d need to work out the dimensions of the pitch in ratio to the picture of it we’re viewing, and work out the rate of the increasing angle of the line from the fixed point in order to do it ourselves.

Parallel lines would only work from a birds-eye view.

 

[the blue panther]

Let's just agree that the rags are shite scum. :-)

Corrected for you.