Happy 75th Birthday

We gave several countries a promise not to recruit their health staff but I’m not sure we honoured that. Surely the answer is to recruit more at home, provided the wages offered are better.
That takes a decade and after thirteen yrs of austerity and cuts we are starting from scratch , also pay and conditions needs to be better to retain staff, for instance car parking charges , the gov could have waived those for staff within one min but they wont do it, lots of things to negotiate with but again they wont do it
 
That takes a decade and after thirteen yrs of austerity and cuts we are starting from scratch , also pay and conditions needs to be better to retain staff, for instance car parking charges , the gov could have waived those for staff within one min but they wont do it, lots of things to negotiate with but again they wont do it
And here is the issue..planning needs to be long term. If we need more doctors e.g.,we should have planned that 10 years ago, but typically govs have short term horizons. A self governing NHS would never make such errors.
 
Sorry mate your completely wrong.
Medicare is for all citizens, rich or poor. Just like the UK.
We pay a Medicare levy on top of income tax to the tax office to pay for it.
There are private hospitals for people with private health insurance but insurance is optional like the UK.

Google it if you don't believe me.

What is Medicare?​

Medicare is the insurance scheme that gives Australian citizens and permanent residents access to healthcare, including a wide range of health and hospital services at no cost.

Medicare is funded by Australian taxpayers who pay 2% of their taxable income to help cover costs. Depending on your financial circumstamces, you may be eligible for a reduction or exemption from the Medicare levy.
The relevant word is “citizens”. As a Brit, I am not eligible unless I am permanently resident. Citizens of NZ and one or two other places also eligible.
Last time I looked, even citizens had to be registered to the scheme.
 
The relevant word is “citizens”. As a Brit, I am not eligible unless I am permanently resident. Citizens of NZ and one or two other places also eligible.
Last time I looked, even citizens had to be registered to the scheme.
I thought you were talking about Australians living in Australia.
So you're just visiting temporarily?
If I go and visit the UK I'd have to pay for NHS so no difference really.
 
I thought you were talking about Australians living in Australia.
So you're just visiting temporarily?
If I go and visit the UK I'd have to pay for NHS so no difference really.
Actually, I was erroneously quoting the previous position. There is now a reciprocal arrangement between NHS and Medicare so neither pay.
In the absence of such an arrangement you would be billed by the NHS, but that is theoretical as they don’t bother that much or pursue you if you don’t pay.
Another difference is primary care which is free here but Medicare pays 75% only for many patients.
Australian health outcomes are far better than NHS.
 
This stood out to me:

  • Over the past decade, the UK had a lower level of capital investment in health care compared with the EU14 countries for which data are available. Between 2010 and 2019, average health capital investment in the UK was £5.8bn a year. If the UK had matched other EU14 countries’ average investment in health capital (as a share of GDP), the UK would have invested £33bn more between 2010 and 2019 (around 55% higher than actual investment during that period).
Isn't that the story of UK in the last 10 years. Lack of investment, be it NHS, Water, Education, Public Services. Is the lack of investment what is contributing to just about everything being broken?
Yup.
 
Privatisation can work when there is strong well funded oversight and a clear operating framework. None of that is in place thanks to our Government. Its basically a licence to do whatever they like just now.
Private hospitals are subject to the same regs and inspection as NHS.
 

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