Henry Winter at it again.

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I'm a bit late with this. Can't see anything on the threads but . . . . . . .

He has written an apologist's article on Ferguson and his fine and ban.

One sentence catches my eye: "The case against Ferguson lacks perspective. It is like hounding Barack Obama for double-parking outside the White House".

No, Mr Winter, it is not. It is like hounding Barack Obama for double parking outside the White House and then listening to a tirade where the poor bloody traffic warden attempts to give a ticket and is subjected to one gratuitous insult after another.

It is annoying when people like Winter, secure in his column in the nation's favourite Tory rag, feel that they can just write anything and it is the weight of the newspaper that brings all the intellect to the argument and nothing in the column.

I've copied the arse-end of the article below:

The case against Ferguson lacks perspective. It is like hounding Barack Obama for double-parking outside the White House. The FA must see the bigger picture with Ferguson.
This is an individual whose managerial feats have been worth tens of millions of pounds to his rivals, raising the Premier League's coefficient to permit a fourth side into the Champions League.
At the risk of straying further into Monty Python territory, what has Ferguson ever done for English football? Well, this is a leader of men who has built on David Moyes's fine work at Everton to nurture Wayne Rooney into England's one saving grace.
This is the club boss who could supply more than half of England's starting XI in Ben Foster, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves and Rooney, let alone cultivating Ravel Morrison as a potential gem for 2014.
Better than Kieran Gibbs and Jack Wilshere, certainly up there with Jack Rodwell, if Morrison does emerge as the pre-eminent English footballer of his generation, it will be because of a certain Scot's shrewd guidance.
I can't remember the last time the FA acknowledged Ferguson's role in shaping England's present or future.
Crassly imitating a scene from Swift, Lilliputian no-names attempt to bring down a giant of the game. The cast of pygmies includes Alan Leighton, a rep from referees' union Prospect, an unknown organisation in football until its pushy principal began piggybacking on Ferguson's fame.
Apparently, Prospect represents referees. So Leighton will know that Ferguson was the first manager to inquire after Mark Halsey's health.
It is the inconsistency of individuals such as Leighton that is particularly galling. Ferguson makes a mistake and gets pilloried. Leighton's members make shocking errors, ignoring beach-balls and bad challenges, yet the Prospect chief stays silent.
The FA seems to have been swayed by a union man stamping his feet and spouting off on the airwaves. Football would be better place if a wise owl such as Ferguson, for all his acerbic outbursts, was advising the FA and its hordes of amateurs on how to run the game.
In a land where many FA types just worry about guaranteeing their free tickets to Wembley every year, Ferguson plots how to take his team there again and again. Ferguson contributes so much to the game that the FA fails to note.
England's most important player, Rooney, rallied to his manager's defence yesterday, detailing why Ferguson should be cherished.
"First of all the trophies he's won,'' began Rooney, "and the type of football he wants you to play – attacking football all the time. Sometimes you feel you can't do it but he keeps you going. At his age [67], he still wants to win all the time. That's incredible to see.''
Ferguson should show more respect to referees – and football should show more respect to Ferguson.
 
''This is the club boss who could supply more than half of England's starting XI in Ben Foster, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves and Rooney''

Ben Foster- Signed from Stoke, Rio Ferdinand -Signed from Leeds, Michael Carrick - Signed from Tottenham, Owen Hargreaves - Signed from Bayern Munich, Wayne Rooney - Signed from Everton.

Fergie has bought all of those English players for a huge amount of money, yet Winter makes out Ferguson is responsible for nurturing them through himself, what rubbish. Credit where its due though, United did produce Wes Brown....big bloody deal. Cringeworthy article.
 
Ravel Morrison, was he the Stretford kid that got done for drugs not that long ago?
 
''This is the club boss who could supply more than half of England's starting XI in Ben Foster, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves and Rooney''

Ben Foster- Signed from Stoke, Rio Ferdinand -Signed from Leeds, Michael Carrick - Signed from Tottenham, Owen Hargreaves - Signed from Bayern Munich, Wayne Rooney - Signed from Everton.

Fergie has bought all of those English players for a huge amount of money, yet Winter makes out Ferguson is responsible for nurturing them through himself, what rubbish. Credit where its due though, United did produce Wes Brown....big bloody deal. Cringeworthy article.


Exactly what i was thinking as i was reading it. What a joker. does that mean that Hughes should get some thanks from the FA for lescott, SWP, Bridge, Richards, Barry and Hart?

Does this moron not understand laws? they are there not to be broken even if you are the wonderful talent nurturing god that is bacon face.

That article should have gone on about the ridiculous fine and ban they have impossed on a serial offender and if they are to stamp this out all the way to grass routes then this drunken gobshite needs to have a 5 match stadium ban. this would go no way in curving his drunken rants but im sure even his pickled mind would think twice before sluring at refs EVERY game.
 
mannion18 said:
''This is the club boss who could supply more than half of England's starting XI in Ben Foster, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves and Rooney''

Ben Foster- Signed from Stoke, Rio Ferdinand -Signed from Leeds, Michael Carrick - Signed from Tottenham, Owen Hargreaves - Signed from Bayern Munich, Wayne Rooney - Signed from Everton.

Fergie has bought all of those English players for a huge amount of money, yet Winter makes out Ferguson is responsible for nurturing them through himself, what rubbish. Credit where its due though, United did produce Wes Brown....big bloody deal. Cringeworthy article.


Exactly what i was thinking as i was reading it. What a joker. does that mean that Hughes should get some thanks from the FA for lescott, SWP, Bridge, Richards, Barry and Hart?

Does this moron not understand laws? they are there not to be broken even if you are the wonderful talent nurturing god that is bacon face.

That article should have gone on about the ridiculous fine and ban they have impossed on a serial offender and if they are to stamp this out all the way to grass routes then this drunken gobshite needs to have a 5 match stadium ban. this would go no way in curving his drunken rants but im sure even his pickled mind would think twice before sluring at refs EVERY game.

Spot on mate, he's a serial offender every season he's at it. The Alan Wiley incident aside, Fergie should have been sent off in that game for the way he was with the 4th official. Wenger got sent off for kicking a water bottle but its ok for Fergie to rant and rave and abuse officials, Winter needs to wind his neck in, Fergie's a disgrace, far from a role model and because of people like him the Respect campaign will never filter down to grass routes where its needed the most.
 
I go home and away with England as well as City. Came back from Ukraine with half of Fleet street. made me laugh - the two biggest tossers; Winter and McGarry lording it - Winter thinking he's greater than everyone else wearing a sportsman's jacket and sticking his nose up everywhere he goes - yet the two wankers are right at the back of the plane squashed up in the cattle class when half of business class was empty.
 
Winter is in the Hugh Grant class of smug twat-public schoolboy face,irritating,high-handed patronsing delivery...what I'd give to see Patrick Barclay give him a Hatton-style punch in the ribs out or Custis smash him over the head with a chair live on "Sunday supplement."
 
His match report claimed that Rooney won his duel with Kaka. Was he watching a different game? Rooney is a top class player but he wasn't better than Kaka and neither of them particularly impressed.

I'm sick of Winter's constant calls for Owen to be recalled to the England team. What's he doing to merit it?
 

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