Home grown (etc) rules ?

[cleavers]

Ignoring potential transfers (in or out), where are we currently up to with the squad ?

With particular regards to our younger first team squad members like Iheanacho, Roberts, Lopes, Denayer, etc

The regulations differ from CL to PL, so its not clear what if any spaces we have, can an expert enlighten us all ?

Thanks.

 

[BillyShears]

Champions League requires 8 homegrown players of which 4 have to be association trained, and 4 have to be club trained. The definition of club trained is 3 years at the club before turning 21. So currently we have:

Association Trained: Clichy, Hart, Delph, and Sterling.

The club trained question is more complex. As far as I can tell of the current players who we are looking to promote, this season only Lopes would count as h/g as he's the only one who's been at the club long enough. I don't think Denayer, Garcia, or Kelechi would count as they haven't been at the club for 3 years yet.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Rather than looking at it as spaces we need to fill its more a limitation of foreign players.

For the CL as Billy has said you can have 17 foreign, 4 HG & 4 Club trained.

We however don't have to fill all the spaces and could leave them blank providing we don't go over the 17 foreign players limit.

At present we have 15 foreign (Willy, Mangala, Sagna, Demi, Kolarov, Kompany, Zaba, Fernandinho, Fernando, Nasri, Navas, Silva, Yaya, Aguero & Bony) so that leaves us 2 free spots.

HG we have Clichy, Hart & Delph as Sterling being under 21 can go on the B list and doesn't have to be included in the main squad.

 

[cleavers]

Champions League requires 8 homegrown players of which 4 have to be association trained, and 4 have to be club trained. The definition of club trained is 3 years at the club before turning 21. So currently we have:

Association Trained: Clichy, Hart, Delph, and Sterling.

The club trained question is more complex. As far as I can tell of the current players who we are looking to promote, this season only Lopes would count as h/g as he's the only one who's been at the club long enough. I don't think Denayer, Garcia, or Kelechi would count as they haven't been at the club for 3 years yet.

So the latter 3 would then have to be counted as part of the 17 remaining players ? That's what I thought so in the CL would probably be left out of the squad if we sign anyone else that is not home grown (or club trained).

What about in the PL ?

 

[cleavers]

Rather than looking at it as spaces we need to fill its more a limitation of foreign players.

Yes that's what I'm getting at obviously.

 

[BillyShears]

So the latter 3 would then have to be counted as part of the 17 remaining players ? That's what I thought so in the CL would probably be left out of the squad if we sign anyone else that is not home grown (or club trained).

What about in the PL ?

Doesn't matter in the PL as you don't have to register players under 21 full stop.

 

[BillyShears]

Yes that's what I'm getting at obviously.

We basically have two foreign spots remaining after Dzeko and Jovetic leave - they can either be filled by new senior singings or by Garcia and Kelechi.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

So the latter 3 would then have to be counted as part of the 17 remaining players ? That's what I thought so in the CL would probably be left out of the squad if we sign anyone else that is not home grown (or club trained).

What about in the PL ?

Im sure its the same with 17 & 8 HG but there is no stipulation in them being Club Trained

 

[BillyShears]

Looking at the numbers realistically it's hard to see how we can bring in Pogba and De Bruyne without going into the CL a body short in the forward department as we'd be going in with Kun and Bony only. That's a very risky strategy.

 

[aguero93:20]

So the latter 3 would then have to be counted as part of the 17 remaining players ? That's what I thought so in the CL would probably be left out of the squad if we sign anyone else that is not home grown (or club trained).

What about in the PL ?

Lopes, Denayer, Nacho and Sterling are u21 and don't need to be registered for Premier League.

Lopes will count as club trained for CL, Sterling will be the fourth association trained player and Denayer will be on the B list and won't take up a squad spot. Nacho will have to go on the A list if we want to use him, next year we can use the B list for him and he'll be club trained the season after.