How come

Didsbury Dave said:
moomba said:
Do they have a smaller squad than us?

One reason they might not look tired is that they rotate their players constantly throughout the year.

Something that we could improve on, but many of us would find disgraceful.

They rotate their players and still win.

Good management and the reason they overachieve.

But they rotate with players who have been at the club for years (so win more often).......we rotate with players who we've only just bought(win not so often)....anyone see what we really need to do now.....BE Patient.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
I fully expect to be flayed alive for this,but maybe,just maybe,they have a group of players who actually have pride and passion in wearing the shirt,give 101% every game and don't stroll around as though £80k a week is an insulting pay packet for a disinterested show pony.
Why would you be ''flayed alive''? You're absolutely spot on.
 
richard keys asked shrek what giggs was on to play like he is & mentioned it again 2mins later so perhaps they have a booster or tonic before/half time & keys was trying to get shrek to spill the beans . merson mentioned wenger used to have him & his arse team mates injected with a green slime before games years ago, so it's obviously all above board if they do as they would never dope players.
They do all look thin as fuck though.
 
Because the hoary old excuse of 'tired' is the Emperor's New Clothes. It's a puff of nonsense that masks poor player and managerial choices that are only verbalised after a defeat. Yer never hear of anyone whacking in five and then complaining of being tired. Did we get the 'tired' monologue after the Sunderland game?
 
The reason we can rotate players so often (SAF went a league record of some mental amount of games without picking the same 11 recently) and still put a quality team out and win is partly down to the fact that we don't have a 'first 11'.

We just put out the team that is most likely to win on the day. If the opposition have a particularly tall/strong striker or two, we'll put O'Shea at right back to add some height, whereas if they have a midget, we'll put Rafael in because, despite being a lot shorter, he adds more pace to our back line and is better going forward.

If we're playing against the Arse, then we'll need a hard working ankle-nipper in midfield and at least one defensive central midfielder, cf. O'Shea in the FA cup, Anderson in previous seasons.

When we're playing a top side, we play on the counter with two pacy wingers and a quick striker. If we're playing an 'easier' team (for lack of a better term) then we'll go 4-4-2 with Berbatov playing, as he can unlock high defensive lines with his passing.

In Europe, Park is essential against teams in the knock-out rounds as his work-rate alone is of huge benefit to nullifying opponents attacks. This was best seen in the 07-08 semis against Barca where Park was our best player, keeping Messi quiet for a lot of it. Domestically, Park is not as vital in most games, though he's still a fantastic squad player.

Horses for courses, 'n all that.
 
Viva Rivaldo said:
The reason we can rotate players so often (SAF went a league record of some mental amount of games without picking the same 11 recently) and still put a quality team out and win is partly down to the fact that we don't have a 'first 11'.

We just put out the team that is most likely to win on the day. If the opposition have a particularly tall/strong striker or two, we'll put O'Shea at right back to add some height, whereas if they have a midget, we'll put Rafael in because, despite being a lot shorter, he adds more pace to our back line and is better going forward.

If we're playing against the Arse, then we'll need a hard working ankle-nipper in midfield and at least one defensive central midfielder, cf. O'Shea in the FA cup, Anderson in previous seasons.

When we're playing a top side, we play on the counter with two pacy wingers and a quick striker. If we're playing an 'easier' team (for lack of a better term) then we'll go 4-4-2 with Berbatov playing, as he can unlock high defensive lines with his passing.

In Europe, Park is essential against teams in the knock-out rounds as his work-rate alone is of huge benefit to nullifying opponents attacks. This was best seen in the 07-08 semis against Barca where Park was our best player, keeping Messi quiet for a lot of it. Domestically, Park is not as vital in most games, though he's still a fantastic squad player.

Horses for courses, 'n all that.


You should have stopped there, that's all you needed to say and sums it up in a nutshell.
 
They have a much bigger squad than us full of quality and a squad full of players who don't moan and just get on with things knowing they will get a chance when they don't play.

We have a bunch of individuals who moan or sulk when things don't go their way.

Micah Richards is one prime example, he says if he couldn't get in our team on a regular basis he would go, what kind of attitude is that. He could go or he could stay and get 400+ appearances and win trophies galore.
 
WNRH said:
They have a much bigger squad than us full of quality and a squad full of players who don't moan and just get on with things knowing they will get a chance when they don't play.

We have a bunch of individuals who moan or sulk when things don't go their way.

Micah Richards is one prime example, he says if he couldn't get in our team on a regular basis he would go, what kind of attitude is that. He could go or he could stay and get 400+ appearances and win trophies galore.

So it's all the players fault... I thought that would be the last, last port of refuge for the beleagured Mancini tubthumper. Looks like we are reaching that place now. Last time the manager tried to exonerate himself by blaming the players was Alan Ball, 1996.

This is the Micah Richards who lost his England place, lost his City place, got publically annialiated in the dressing room by the manager and has fought his way back into the team so much that he is a contender for player of the season?
 

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