west didsblue
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With your history (iirc) that must be a difficult admission to make.
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How do we resolve the Brexit mess?
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dronefromsector7G
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By all means use this thread to keep bringing our attention to them. It can only be a good thing for all of us.And we’re continuing to reap the consequences, with new ones becoming apparent almost on a weekly basis.
mancity2012_eamo
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Yes. And that’s the present. We have the DUP behaving the way they are, now.The will of the people of the Island of Ireland will decide its future and rightly so.
As a unionist it’s pretty hard to accept that the only grown ups in the room politically in NI right now seem to be Sinn Fein and the way the new first minister conducted herself on behalf of everyone recently was magnificent I don’t mind admitting.
I can fully understand why they are doing so well domestically.
If you go back to why the partition of the country was done in the first place though, you will find what I was referring to in my post to you.
There were two votes in the early part of the 20th century that overwhelmingly voted the country out of the UK and a very well armed northern unionist sector said,….. well Ulster said NO.
The bloodshed that would have happened would have put everything that had happened in the previous centuries and later in the Troubles in the tuppence hal’penny place.
With your history (iirc) that must be a difficult admission to make.
It is but time and people move on.
I’ve had enough of division, it’s time to move forwards.
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I pop in here to read about the Brexit benefits, it’d be nice of those moaning to actually have a debate about them.I take your point about the wider forum but I’m struggling to see why anyone who voted to leave is remotely wound up about this thread.
There is no meaningful debate from alternative sides about the merits (or otherwise) of Brexit. It is simply a vehicle for those who thought it was a mistake at the time to vent, shake their heads and to feel some sort of sense of vindication, however bittersweet that may be.
I fully accept it is without question an echo chamber, possibly the biggest on the forum. The thread title should provide a clue. That is the sole remaining function of this thread - no debate about the merits of Brexit, merely a medium for posters of a certain disposition (like myself) to rant a bit - and given that, there is no point in anyone who isn’t part of that cohort engaging with it, or getting worked up about the content. It’s like going on RAWK and getting upset about what they say about City. Simply no point.
Doesn’t mean I‘m trying to say who can and can’t post on here, just that there seems no point engaging with it unless you’re part of that cohort and there’s nothing stopping anyone starting an alternative thread that hasn’t morphed and calcified like this one.
Maybe some of us just want a space where we can collectively moan and let off some steam about Brexit. It’s hardly a capital offence and stops us boring people in the real world about the subject.
Yes. And that’s the present. We have the DUP behaving the way they are, now.
If you go back to why the partition of the country was done in the first place though, you will find what I was referring to in my post to you.
There were two votes in the early part of the 20th century that overwhelmingly voted the country out of the UK and a very well armed northern unionist sector said,….. well Ulster said NO.
The bloodshed that would have happened would have put everything that had happened in the previous centuries and later in the Troubles in the tuppence hal’penny place.
I won’t even begin to try and explain how it would pan out other than to say this. Terrorists can never be allowed to win the day and if you guys voted for a United Ireland tomorrow I’d fully support and expect nothing less than the governments of both our nations to hunt down anyone who thinks they can stop and silence the democratic process.
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I can sneer at Brexiteers and stand around saying “I told you so” when queuing at immigration for 3 hours in Spain. Wouldn’t be able to do that without Brexit.I pop in here to read about the Brexit benefits, it’d be nice of those moaning to actually have a debate about them.
Well said - like you I am sick and tired of division. What we need to do is just open our eyes and our ears - we have an incredible planet full ( or very nearly full ) of beautiful decent people. We should concentrate on the positive.It is but time and people move on.
I’ve had enough of division, it’s time to move forwards.
I pop in here to read about the Brexit benefits, it’d be nice of those moaning to actually have a debate about them.
There isn’t any as of yet because politically we are being led by imbeciles and frankly shysters who have deliberately damaged the process out of self interests.
I’d like to think with the right leadership, here and within the EU we would see some in the years to come but I won’t hold my breath, hence my position of hugely regretting my vote to leave but it doesn’t mean that down the line there won’t be any.
It’s very much in all our interests it does start to work out because we are not going back in.
I can sneer at Brexiteers and stand around saying “I told you so” when queuing at immigration for 3 hours in Spain. Wouldn’t be able to do that without Brexit.
Chance to chat and make new friends ;-)