How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[TinFoilHat]

 

[lloydie]

Cameron thought he was being smart, never in his wildest dreams did he think the Leave vote would win. Had things gone as planned it would have smoothed the euro waters for a decade, however......

I've never been convinced the pigfucker & Gideon weren't closet Brexiteers...

 

[Saddleworth2]

This is where the debate falls down.

Has brexit had an effect on food price inflation? No doubt. Is it the primary source? Definitely not.

Biggest driver is energy costs and we also have global weather events that have had an effect. Both those happen regardless of membership or not of the EU. Globally inflation has hit everyone.

I’ve no issue in debating brexit but it’s rarely if ever an honest debate on here and that’s not me having a go at you mate, it’s just my observation.

It accounts for 33% of food inflation. That’s a pretty large driver. Who knows how much worse our food security gets.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I've never been convinced the pigfucker & Gideon weren't closet Brexiteers...

Their campaign really was that bad.

 

[johnnytapia]

We can learn a lot from Terri Hooley.

 

[blueinsa]

It accounts for 33% of food inflation. That’s a pretty large driver. Who knows how much worse our food security gets.

I’ve not seen any figure but brexit was seven years ago and we have only seen the excessive food inflation since the Russian invasion and the global inflationary crises.

I accept it played it’s part, I won’t accept it being used as either the only reason or the biggest either because that’s just not true.

Edit. Just seen figures that back up your 33% claim mate.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I’ve not seen any figure but brexit was seven years ago and we have only seen the excessive food inflation since the Russian invasion and the global inflationary crises.

I accept it played it’s part, I won’t accept it being used as either the only reason or the biggest either because that’s just not true.

Edit. Just seen figures that back up your 33% claim mate.

For me Brexit was a sliding doors moment that will define our future and leave the future we could have had (at the heart of Europe) in the bin. We are diminished and shrinking fast. Instead of being outward looking, progressive, a caring society we see enemies everywhere. Some poor buggers managed to get here from war torn country A, fuck em and send them to Rwanda.

I don’t see Brexit as an event that happened and it’s in the past. Every day it helps define our increasingly depressing future. Why else would I give my support to those loonies in the SNP ;-)

 

[Grassland Blue]

My opinion fwiw is this.
Brexit has happened and we in the U.K., brexiters or remainers, have to put our differences to one side and join together in trying to make the most of it.
I would like to see an FTA, but wouldn't the U.K. have to now abide fully by E.U. rules and regs without complaint?
(There is an obvious jibe here, but I won't use it in order to maintain some decorum.)

 

[Vic]

So the gvmt will relax the rules on overseas workers employed on the boats! That’s only half the issue. My wife’s family in Cornwall can’t find any locals willing to work in the fish/ shellfish processing unit they run. No suprise coz it’s filthy hard work in freezing conditions. It used to be staffed with Polish labour who were brilliant and loyal, returning year after year.
The UK has a tiny fishing fleet. This is yet another political flag wave.
Maybe the gvmt could also comment on the paperwork which has become a full time job for two people.

We couldn't get enough Brits to work on boats before the referendum.

 

[Vic]

Terrible decision to leave and had we voted to remain I would have been over my leave vote in a matter of minutes and I’ve stated I would vote to rejoin in a heartbeat given the chance, although that now seems increasingly unlikely.

What I won’t ever apologise for though and it was a real dig your heels in moment for me was the attempts to ignore what 17 million said and to just remain despite the result. At that point we had to leave, regardless and I’m glad we did if for no other reason than those who as I saw it, who wished to subvert a democratic vote and voices of millions got told to fucking do one.

To this day, that’s the real beef and arguments still for the majority. Not leaving, not the vote, it’s the fall out and the arguments that followed when it became all out war between those who said we have to respect the vote and those who didn’t want to.

No-one ignored it.

What was ignored was that it was a slim majority and no-one had voted for the hard Brexit that the nutters have foisted on us.