How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Sorry to see you post that...............

Your posts over the last couple of days have offered more sense that the last 7 years of an echo chamber limited to a group seeking to provide reassurance to each other.

Still - as I mentioned to a poster the other day:

"............I wish you well with your objectivity - although I strongly doubt your views will be tolerated and I expect that you will soon find a 'gang' of posters coming on to ridicule what you post - rather than debate it."

They cannot debate - you must join the group and comply

Shame - but cannot blame you - most people have better things to do with their time.

Though..........

FWIW - if you had been on the thread longer you would have realised that the cheesemonger's post should not have been been taken other than with a sense of admiration.

He artfully holds up a mirror to the nonsense that the pack spout - really quite a sharp individual IMO

Anyway - come on CITY smash the fucking Tarquins tomorrow - now there is a view that will secure consensus
Now that events have proven you totally and utterly wrong in everything that you posted in your previous guise, are you now prepared to admit that it’s all a bit of a mess or are you going to carry on bloviating about packs and echo chambers. The only reason it’s turned into a bit of an echo chamber is that no one can put together a coherent argument that we are seeing any benefits at all in trade, governance, sovereignty, the economy, border control, personal finances, individual freedoms or anything else as a result of Brexit. Maybe you could try doing that yourself?

By the way did you manage to get your Cyprus residency sorted out?
 
Sorry to see you post that...............

Your posts over the last couple of days have offered more sense that the last 7 years of an echo chamber limited to a group seeking to provide reassurance to each other.

Still - as I mentioned to a poster the other day:

"............I wish you well with your objectivity - although I strongly doubt your views will be tolerated and I expect that you will soon find a 'gang' of posters coming on to ridicule what you post - rather than debate it."

They cannot debate - you must join the group and comply

Shame - but cannot blame you - most people have better things to do with their time.

Though..........

FWIW - if you had been on the thread longer you would have realised that the cheesemonger's post should not have been been taken other than with a sense of admiration.

He artfully holds up a mirror to the nonsense that the pack spout - really quite a sharp individual IMO

Anyway - come on CITY smash the fucking Tarquins tomorrow - now there is a view that will secure consensus
Why are you doing a Donald instead of actually debating the issues?

All I’ve seen you do is complain that you’re not able to discuss but don’t actually ever have anything to talk about.
 
Sorry to see you post that...............

Your posts over the last couple of days have offered more sense that the last 7 years of an echo chamber limited to a group seeking to provide reassurance to each other.

Still - as I mentioned to a poster the other day:

"............I wish you well with your objectivity - although I strongly doubt your views will be tolerated and I expect that you will soon find a 'gang' of posters coming on to ridicule what you post - rather than debate it."

They cannot debate - you must join the group and comply

Shame - but cannot blame you - most people have better things to do with their time.

Though..........

FWIW - if you had been on the thread longer you would have realised that the cheesemonger's post should not have been been taken other than with a sense of admiration.

He artfully holds up a mirror to the nonsense that the pack spout - really quite a sharp individual IMO

Anyway - come on CITY smash the fucking Tarquins tomorrow - now there is a view that will secure consensus
More nonsense from the Bloviator.

Why "debate" rather than just refute silly talk about democracy?
 
Why are you doing a Donald instead of actually debating the issues?

All I’ve seen you do is complain that you’re not able to discuss but don’t actually ever have anything to talk about.
They've completely lost the rational argument hence their irrational inane and pretentious ramblings. Did they use to speak like that when they wanted the votes of the "Hoi polloi" ? No, of course not because all they wanted to hear was bilious straight talking wasn't it?
These people will never even admit that they "might have been" wrong not even in the face of such overwhelming evidence. Even the "take back control" mantra ( laughable for so many reasons it's as if we never had general elections, decided our own tax , health and defence policy etc ..) has been seen as a total sham.
Convergence was nothing more than good simple economic common sense in a market so big and diverse.
No pile on from me here guys and gals, just facts backed up by irrefutable data is the key to decent honest debate
 
I suppose the argument/debate left the building in June 2016, so no point really.
Only if the discussion was about leaving or remaining which it isn’t.

I thought this thread was about discussing how to make it work and reverse the negative effects that the government has so skilfully negotiated into the Brexit withdrawal agreement and trade deal, as well as all the self imposed red tape making international trade so difficult for many.
 
Only if the discussion was about leaving or remaining which it isn’t.

I thought this thread was about discussing how to make it work and reverse the negative effects that the government has so skilfully negotiated into the Brexit withdrawal agreement and trade deal, as well as all the self imposed red tape making international trade so difficult for many.
That would be a lot easier if the opposition to such sensible changes would just wither on the vine of reality.
 

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