Hughes - Update

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and so it came to pass..... Manchester United fell
I see many have decided to take me to tsk in other threads... so here is my appraisal of where we (as a club) are and what we've achieve since 24th May.

Firstly,let me make it absolutely clear for the nth time. I do not dislike Hughes because he is a former Salford United Player... far from it and it disappoints me that Bill (DeNiro) takes that view. We have had the discussion face to face many times.

The reason i have doubted Hughes is simple - I dont think he had the pedigree or experience that I wanted to see in the hot seat at this club. It is a matter of record and opinion based on last seasons performances that my view was no less correct or incorrect than anyone elses. It was my view and I was not afraid to express. I had earlier in the season stated I would be happy for Hughes to prove me wrong - personally I dont think he did prove me wrong last season - we were a poor display too many times formy liking.

So even me, Hughes's biggest critic, must accept that the start to this season has been nothing short of sensational and the football that has been played hasn't been too bad either.

Whilst I wanted him out last season I must confess, based on what I've seen this season the Jury is back in and out about him (follow that if you can). I temper my expectations through looking at the following measures

Transfers - I think he is about 7/10 when you add value for monry to the purchases, though on the whole the purchases have been pretty good - though I definately exclude RSC from that number, and admittedly Lescott has pleasantly surprised me. Bridge not so brilliant nor TBH and Bellamy is questionable as a VFM acquisition. Barry, Adebayor and Toure are superb and hopefully Tevez will also prove to be VFM.

Games Played - Can't fault 4 wins out of 4 without conceding, though I do suggest people try to not get carried away as we have not played anyone we wouldn't have expected to have beaten (even last season). If we are still unbeaten after 5 league games anyone that does not think he deserves a go should have a serious rethink. That said, with all the financial resources at his disposal I genuinely believe anyone with professional coaching badges would struggle to not create a decent side.

General approach - I applaud his team selection for the Carling Cup though for me (and I know this isn't in keepimng with many opinions on hers) I don't like his media style think he is too vanilla and needs to try and become a little more interesting and engaging.

So there you have it... Jimharri go ahead take the piss if you must....

Hughes, It's over to you.
 
aha, the ego has landed!

I feel cheated. I demand an unreasonable, ill-informed, hughes-out thread immediately. This all seems a bit reasonable, I mean, even the bits that I disagree with strongly, I feel they are expressed reasonably and fairly, so I, ugh.... have to respect your view.
 
You say Bellamy may not be value for money...

He cost us 14M:

It took nothing from our budget.
It was immediatly swalled by WHU's debt, so never became part fo their transfer budget.

He wins balls, gets moves going forward, and when one of our players is being bullied, he gets in the twunts face (whoever is hurting our player).

So you can't really say he hasn't been VFM for us, when he has, in one sense (and I know this sounds dodgy, but I'm sure you get where I'm coming form, sort of) he was on a free (I'm not saying he was, but following the logic, he didn't take anything form us, add anything to WHU).

Apart from that, I agree with you scorer you silly old bugger ;-P
 
Bluemoon115 said:
You say Bellamy may not be value for money...

He cost us 14M:

It took nothing from our budget.
It was immediatly swalled by WHU's debt, so never became part fo their transfer budget.

He wins balls, gets moves going forward, and when one of our players is being bullied, he gets in the twunts face (whoever is hurting our player).

So you can't really say he hasn't been VFM for us, when he has, in one sense (and I know this sounds dodgy, but I'm sure you get where I'm coming form, sort of) he was on a free (I'm not saying he was, but following the logic, he didn't take anything form us, add anything to WHU).

Apart from that, I agree with you scorer you silly old bugger ;-P

I have to admit Bluemoon115, I thoght he, Barry and Ireland had great games today.
 
scorer said:
Bluemoon115 said:
You say Bellamy may not be value for money...

He cost us 14M:

It took nothing from our budget.
It was immediatly swalled by WHU's debt, so never became part fo their transfer budget.

He wins balls, gets moves going forward, and when one of our players is being bullied, he gets in the twunts face (whoever is hurting our player).

So you can't really say he hasn't been VFM for us, when he has, in one sense (and I know this sounds dodgy, but I'm sure you get where I'm coming form, sort of) he was on a free (I'm not saying he was, but following the logic, he didn't take anything form us, add anything to WHU).

Apart from that, I agree with you scorer you silly old bugger ;-P

I have to admit Bluemoon115, I thoght he, Barry and Ireland had great games today.

But do you see what I'm getting at, that although we paid a lot for him (IMO overpriced, but hear me out), the fee won't come back to haunt us.

He gives us something extra, an agressive twat who sticks up for his teamates, which is what we will need if were gonna challenge.
 
You must be taking the p***!!!
...either that or you've been blowing the old crack pipe for the past 12+months.

Only 1 team won more home games than us last season in the PL.
MH is proving to be a fantastic manager, the guy doesn't "F" about and knows exactly what he wants.
He's analysed the existing squad and now he's making changes...don't forget, this is only his first full transfer window.
The project is well under way...the future is bright...the future is Blue!
 
Your opinion is expressed really well and I admire the fact that it is not just a " Hughes (or anyone else) is a wanker" thread.
I don't disagree with your VFM opinions either if we were running a normal club budget.
The owners have given MH the go ahead to get the strongest squad together as quickly as possible to challenge asap. I don't believe that they think they have secured any bargains either, they don't really care and neither should we.
If you have paid out £25 mill on a player when your budget is £45 mill it is a huge chunk. £25 mill of £250 mill doesn't seem so bad!
Also I like MH deadpanning the media. They are a bunch of slime balls who will pick up on any comment and magnify it against our club. So keep em guessing Mark.
 

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