I am voting Labour next ....talk me out of it.

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ColinBellsjockstrap

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OK,

Since 1971 I have always voted for the Conservative party, a Margaret Thatcher fan (Although she did have her faults), but I am now totally disillusioned with this shower of s
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t who go from crisis to crisis,( I do have a certain amount of sympathy with them because they did have covid19 to deal with, which must have been a nightmare)...but now I have had enough.
rage
Liz Truss and that idiotic chancellor was the last straw.

Now I know Starmer is rather bland and doesn't seem to come up with any policies. just criticise the Tories all the time and I used to hate Angela Rayner but I am coming round to thinking she is OK, talks a lot of sense, even though she lets her mouth get carried away a bit, but time for a new broom?

Thoughts?
scratchchin
 
ColinBellsjockstrap said:
OK,

Since 1971 I have always voted for the Conservative party, a Margaret Thatcher fan (Although she did have her faults), but I am now totally disillusioned with this shower of s
censored.gif
t who go from crisis to crisis,( I do have a certain amount of sympathy with them because they did have covid19 to deal with, which must have been a nightmare)...but now I have had enough.
rage
Liz Truss and that idiotic chancellor was the last straw.

Now I know Starmer is rather bland and doesn't seem to come up with any policies. just criticise the Tories all the time and I used to hate Angela Rayner but I am coming round to thinking she is OK, talks a lot of sense, even though she lets her mouth get carried away a bit, but time for a new broom?

Thoughts?
scratchchin
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I stopped reading when you said you were a Thatcherite haha. I’d carry on supporting the Cons if I were you. They’re doing a great job
 
Disclaimer, I am not a Labour supporter, though I might vote for them at the next election. I’ll be voting tactically to get the aforementioned incumbent shower of shit as far from office as possible.

I would say I absolutely don’t get this argument that Starmer has no policies. Well… it’s nearly two years until the next election… what good would it do him to trot out all of his policies now? It would just give the Conservatives two years to poke holes in them and prepare their election campaign. He’ll release them in an election manifesto. I would advise that is the point at which you should decide who to vote for. And yes many will argue that election manifestos aren’t worth the paper they’re written on - but I would suggest that it is still the best way to judge your philosophical alignment, even if practical reality leads to some policies not happening.

That aside, Starmer actually does come up with the odd policy when it is topical. And then half the time the Tories steal the policy in all but name - which kind of proves my point around it being too soon to release anything substantial.
 
ColinBellsjockstrap said:
OK,

Since 1971 I have always voted for the Conservative party, a Margaret Thatcher fan (Although she did have her faults), but I am now totally disillusioned with this shower of s
censored.gif
t who go from crisis to crisis,( I do have a certain amount of sympathy with them because they did have covid19 to deal with, which must have been a nightmare)...but now I have had enough.
rage
Liz Truss and that idiotic chancellor was the last straw.

Now I know Starmer is rather bland and doesn't seem to come up with any policies. just criticise the Tories all the time and I used to hate Angela Rayner but I am coming round to thinking she is OK, talks a lot of sense, even though she lets her mouth get carried away a bit, but time for a new broom?

Thoughts?
scratchchin
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I have made a spell that anyone voting Tory or Labour gets gout until they redeem themselves at a future general election.

Just letting you know so you can't complain about the minimum 4 year excruciating pain.
 
ColinBellsjockstrap said:
OK,

Since 1971 I have always voted for the Conservative party, a Margaret Thatcher fan (Although she did have her faults), but I am now totally disillusioned with this shower of s
censored.gif
t who go from crisis to crisis,( I do have a certain amount of sympathy with them because they did have covid19 to deal with, which must have been a nightmare)...but now I have had enough.
rage
Liz Truss and that idiotic chancellor was the last straw.

Now I know Starmer is rather bland and doesn't seem to come up with any policies. just criticise the Tories all the time and I used to hate Angela Rayner but I am coming round to thinking she is OK, talks a lot of sense, even though she lets her mouth get carried away a bit, but time for a new broom?

Thoughts?
scratchchin
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No.

Just do it. In simple terms, we need a change. It has been unhealthy having the Conservatives in power this long, and Labour have an electable leadership now.
 
ColinBellsjockstrap said:
OK,

Since 1971 I have always voted for the Conservative party, a Margaret Thatcher fan (Although she did have her faults), but I am now totally disillusioned with this shower of s
censored.gif
t who go from crisis to crisis,( I do have a certain amount of sympathy with them because they did have covid19 to deal with, which must have been a nightmare)...but now I have had enough.
rage
Liz Truss and that idiotic chancellor was the last straw.

Now I know Starmer is rather bland and doesn't seem to come up with any policies. just criticise the Tories all the time and I used to hate Angela Rayner but I am coming round to thinking she is OK, talks a lot of sense, even though she lets her mouth get carried away a bit, but time for a new broom?

Thoughts?
scratchchin
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Vote Kier and look at his preferred front-line team er nope.

Job's fucked, can't vote Tory or Labour, the Greens are just too weird, LibDems lol and then you're into the racists.

I'll just sit back and watch.
 
Maybe you can look at the people standing uk be your local MP and choose who you would like to represent you in Parliament? I did that last election when I voted Labour - I really didn’t want Corbyn running the country but Cat Smith is a fantastic MP for Lancaster.
That was the only way I could vote and get to sleep afterwards.
 
I never voted and I won’t but I wouldn’t even mind if Labour get in next time , it will be about the same just slightly better ,
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Why do Lib Dem’s not get a look in ?
Aren’t they the most pro EU party
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This isn't really a serious question is it?

If you live in a Tory-libdem marginal seat, vote libdem. If you vote libdem in Labour-libdem marginal you are more likely to get a tory government.

They will never win power and are far more likely to prop up status quo in return for sharing power.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
This isn't really a serious question is it?

If you live in a Tory-libdem marginal seat, vote libdem. If you vote libdem in Labour-libdem marginal you are more likely to get a tory government.

They will never win power and are far more likely to prop up status quo in return for sharing power.
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It’s a serious question

For those very pro EU and with Starmer recently committing to staying in and ‘making Brexit work’ then Lib Dem is the only option

I think everyone is brainwashed into thinking it has to be either Labour or Tories - and that’s why Lib Dem don’t stand a chance
 
BlueHammer85 said:
It’s a serious question

For those very pro EU and with Starmer recently committing to staying in and ‘making Brexit work’ then Lib Dem is the only option

I think everyone is brainwashed into thinking it has to be either Labour or Tories - and that’s why Lib Dem don’t stand a chance
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No. No one is brainwashed. But it is not likely to happen. It is not going to happen.

They probably don't even have enough sensible candidates to contest every seat anyway.

Were the libdems pro EU when they junked the idea of working with Labour in 2019?

Judge them by their actions not their words.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
No. No one is brainwashed. But it is not likely to happen. It is not going to happen.

They probably don't even have enough sensible candidates to contest every seat anyway.

Were the libdems pro EU when they junked the idea of working with Labour in 2019?

Judge them by their actions not their words.
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Yes it’s not going to happen , was just throwing it out there that they should be considered by many more simply for being the most pro EU party at the moment and I’m sure that’s the number 1 priority for many voters

www.independent.co.uk

Lib Dems set out roadmap to rejoin EU single market and ‘end petty Brexit squabbles’

The proposed policy would ultimately reinstate free movement and trade
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
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