i would like to lose 3.2/4.3

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ancoats

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than play 1 man up front and 5 in midfield and lose 2.0

what on earth has happen to the english game
its so slow and no fight left in the game

its like teams (everton) (stoke)and many more who turn up and see us with 1 striker up front at home its to easy for them

why do we play that way at home last night everton back 4 must have had a right laugh at tevez on his own

i dont think we made there keeper save 1 shot all night thats not right at home
for a team going for 4th spot

i could take them beating us last night but to lose with there keeper not having to save anything thats not right

stick 3 up play 433 give tevez a play maker get a player to hold the ball up
forget the wingers and have the fullbacks move up to the half way line

ok we could lose a goal or 2 but we could score 3/4 thats the way to play at home and the fans would go home happy even if we lose and show some fight
 
i agree mate i hate the 4-5-1 and if we're going to lose at lease we'd always be a goal threat teams would know they were gonna have to score more than one not just wait for a counter attack to kill the game off
 
Well I personally hated knowing that even after scoring a hatful that we were odds on to throw away every lead and draw or lose humiliatingly to any team at all, and that we were physically incapable of winning away from home. I'll take a comfortable defence, occasionally losing 2-0 to the form team of the league after dominating possession, and knowing that in summer we'll be replacing the midfield with better players anyway.

Personally I don't find this kind of loss anywhere near as humiliating as conceding three against Burnley. I'm pretty sure the fans didn't go home from that game happy knowing that we also scored three. As I recall, this forum was baying for a manager who would solve the defence at the expense of all-out-attack football after that game.
 
2-3, 3-4, 0-2 not really relevant.

I'd rather win more than lose, and stays show that the way we
play under Mancini is a pretty effective way.
 
iomblue said:
i agree mate i hate the 4-5-1 and if we're going to lose at lease we'd always be a goal threat teams would know they were gonna have to score more than one not just wait for a counter attack to kill the game off
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that's not true
rags play with that tactics but they are on the top!

the real problem is in our squad

Berry sucks

Zabaleta sucks

Bridge sucks

and even SWP and Ireland are playing awfully

it's not about the tactics
 
moomba said:
2-3, 3-4, 0-2 not really relevant.

I'd rather win more than lose, and stays show that the way we
play under Mancini is a pretty effective way.
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This

I quite like 4-5-1 the way Mancini plays it as long as it is Tevez up front. Bellamy and Johnson are always quick to support him and the only thing missing is a midfielder ala Arteta
 
moonies lovechild said:
moomba said:
2-3, 3-4, 0-2 not really relevant.

I'd rather win more than lose, and stays show that the way we
play under Mancini is a pretty effective way.
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This

I quite like 4-5-1 the way Mancini plays it as long as it is Tevez up front. Bellamy and Johnson are always quick to support him and the only thing missing is a midfielder ala Arteta
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Plus the way the rags play, they compress the midfield and create space for the full-backs down the flanks. We play out to the flnaks and therefore cut off the supply route for the full-backs. Also none of our full-backs can deliver a semi-decent cross. Even Gary Neville can do that.
 
ancoats said:
than play 1 man up front and 5 in midfield and lose 2.0

what on earth has happen to the english game
its so slow and no fight left in the game

its like teams (everton) (stoke)and many more who turn up and see us with 1 striker up front at home its to easy for them

why do we play that way at home last night everton back 4 must have had a right laugh at tevez on his own

i dont think we made there keeper save 1 shot all night thats not right at home
for a team going for 4th spot

i could take them beating us last night but to lose with there keeper not having to save anything thats not right

stick 3 up play 433 give tevez a play maker get a player to hold the ball up
forget the wingers and have the fullbacks move up to the half way line

ok we could lose a goal or 2 but we could score 3/4 thats the way to play at home and the fans would go home happy even if we lose and show some fight
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All down to opinions, but I thought it was too adventurous

Are you telling me that Bellamy and Johnson were playing in midfield, because I didn't see it that way. Also when Ireland went off, mancini didn't replace him with Vieira did he? he put on SWP.

For some period in the game Everton were comfortable because they swamped the midfield and could pass it around us. No point playing all the forward players if you can't get them the ball, and for parts of the game that was our problem

A few fans have got this bug in their heads that says Mancini = Italian = Defensive. Sometimes you don't score because you have too many forwards on the pitch and not enough midfielders to win the ball, and play the creative pass
 
Some fans really don't have a clue do they.

So glad the OP is a supporter and has nothing to do with the team.
 
I don't think we have been overly negative recently. I think he would have picked RSC if he wasn't so fragile. I think Mancini is learning lessons and we are nowhere near as negative as we were a month or two ago.
 
No way m8....it was awful under Hughes, we couldn't defend leads to save our lives ........hated sitting there watching teams gathering confidence and clawing their way back into games when we should have just killed the tie off.
 
Lindowman said:
No way m8....it was awful under Hughes, we couldn't defend leads to save our lives ........hated sitting there watching teams gathering confidence and clawing their way back into games when we should have just killed the tie off.
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You mean you don't miss the blind panic spreading throughout the team whenever the ball was aimlessly lumped into our box?
 
Bollocks to 'end to end stuff', points make prizes and Mancini has improved our points average.



Lancet Fluke said:
I don't think we have been overly negative recently. I think he would have picked RSC if he wasn't so fragile. I think Mancini is learning lessons and we are nowhere near as negative as we were a month or two ago.
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I'm convinced that was a factor in our setup last night LF. I was surprised Crocky didn't start then surprised he didn't come on for Ireland (Mancini brought him on after half hour a couple of weeks ago so clearly isn't afraid to change things early on). I think that fact he barely made it to the end of the game a only a few days ago has means he's been 'looked after' to avoid losing him for the rest of the season. A decent - no better, no worse - player when fit, but in real terms his lack of availability makes him next to useless.
 
Falastur said:
Well I personally hated knowing that even after scoring a hatful that we were odds on to throw away every lead and draw or lose humiliatingly to any team at all, and that we were physically incapable of winning away from home. I'll take a comfortable defence, occasionally losing 2-0 to the form team of the league after dominating possession, and knowing that in summer we'll be replacing the midfield with better players anyway.

Personally I don't find this kind of loss anywhere near as humiliating as conceding three against Burnley. I'm pretty sure the fans didn't go home from that game happy knowing that we also scored three. As I recall, this forum was baying for a manager who would solve the defence at the expense of all-out-attack football after that game.
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I'll take a comfortable defence,
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When you play 3 defensive midfielders that should happen,the zonal marking looks a winner aswell.
As I recall, this forum was baying for a manager who would solve the defence at the expense of all-out-attack football after that game
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You recall wrong,infact you don't recall that from this forum i can assure you.
 
this is not an ideal world. the real cost of the choice you are making is not winning games 3-2, but drawing too many of them 2-2, 3-3, or losing them 4-3, 3-0. if you leave the door open, the other team will not stop exploiting it just because you want them too once the score reaches a certain level. if you are happy with that, then fair enough, it's your life, but to me football and sport are about beating the opponent first and foremost, doing it in a satisfactory way comes a close second, but pure entertainment at the expense of honest, all out competition for the result is the domain of professional wrestling.
 
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