Ian Bishop & Trevor Morley on their "rumoured relationship"

Aba452 said:
It's a bit bloody sad that this crap really got to Morley, maybe Bish coped with it a bit better. But it probably cost him a chance of maybe getting on the edges of the England squad.

English football isn't homophobic but no top flight player has come out since Justin Fashanu in the late eighties??? Wonder why not with our fucking scum media.

Got a lot to learn on that score from the WSL, their players and the entire mentality, I suspect.

As for the player who went on to manage City, Peter Reid springs to mind, I don't know either way.

We've all sniggered at these rumours, knocking around for 30 odd years, horrible the pain such snide shit causes.
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That's why all the jumping up and down about Qatar was a nonsense. Not because they don't have human rights issues, but because the implication of all that criticism is that we've got it all worked out here and always have had. Thousands upon thousands of men have played football at the top level in this country and to this day only Justin Fashanu has been gay? It's statistically impossible. And he ended up taking his own life. So how tolerant are we, really, when we're pointing the finger? Are we pointing the finger because we really want Qatar to clean up its act, or just because we've got a toxic, racist 'national' press who can't stand the idea of a major tournament being outside the West and need a stick to beat the hosts with?
 
dickie davies said:
Which one?

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DON'T MESS WITH MY TUTU.
 
I had a spell around the time when Bishop and Morley played when I didn't go to games as much as previously - or since. I knew that Morley had been stabbed, but, until I saw this, I had never heard any of these rumours at all. I don't remember the players getting stick, but I do remember Ian Bishop's arse showing incident at OT (I think). None of my City mates ever mentioned anything about any of it.
So, thanks for the education. Glad that both of them have managed to deal with it OK. Quite eye opening what Bishop had to say about the FA near the end of the interview.
Cheers.
 
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Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Very interesting interview with Cheesey.
I wonder which former player it was who went on to manage City.... Pearce? Hughes?
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Thanks for posting this Mad Eyed, Morley and Bishop were 2 of my favourite players from that era. The way Kendall and City treated them wasn't very good after Machin was sacked, they will both forever be legends to me as they both scored against ushited. I'm happy that they dismissed the rumours that were obviously started by ignorant tw@ts, but to be honest I couldn't give 2 shite's about anyone's personal life, that's up to them.
 
Aba452 said:
It's a bit bloody sad that this crap really got to Morley, maybe Bish coped with it a bit better. But it probably cost him a chance of maybe getting on the edges of the England squad.

English football isn't homophobic but no top flight player has come out since Justin Fashanu in the late eighties??? Wonder why not with our fucking scum media.

Got a lot to learn on that score from the WSL, their players and the entire mentality, I suspect.

As for the player who went on to manage City, Peter Reid springs to mind, I don't know either way.

We've all sniggered at these rumours, knocking around for 30 odd years, horrible the pain such snide shit causes
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petrusha said:
Also, Bishop said that the player in question had "ended up" managing City, which implies he wasn't and hadn't been our manager at the time he delivered the abusive comments. Morley was stabbed by his wife in March 1991, when Reid was already City manager, which doesn't on the face of it seem to fit with what Bish said.
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I also don't think it is Reid who is far more enlightened than some give him credit for. He's actually a very liberal minded guy from what I know of him.
 
Don’t know how anyone can have a moan about the media with regards to this. Our fanbase perpetuated this as much as anyone.
 
It is sad that Trevor Morley was effected by it. Even back then it didnt matter to West Ham fans and wouldn't have mattered to us what the sexuality of our players was or is. Of course there are exceptions with bigoted attitudes.

A player's sexuality is their business.
 
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West Ham were in the old Second Division when Morley was stabbed in March 1991, but were promoted at the end of the season.

I'm guessing that Bishop would have faced both Hughes and Pearce in 91-92. My money would be on Pearce, but it's all a bit sad.

Also, somebody mentioned the unfounded Steve Coppell rumours which I'm pretty sure surfaced in the same month as the unfounded Arsene Wenger rumours. Ironically, I was informed of both "facts" by the same gobby rag in the office
 
Zabbasbeard said:
I also don't think it is Reid who is far more enlightened than some give him credit for. He's actually a very liberal minded guy from what I know of him.
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Agreed.
We stayed in the same hotel as him, in Germany, for the 2006 WC and ended up sitting with him for a few drinks in the hotel bar one night. Very level headed and really passionate about City and said he loved his time here and only wished he would have been given the time to 'finish the job' !
Decent guy all-round is Peter Reid.
 
Onholiday(somemightsay) said:
Two beautiful feet.

Absolutely loved that goal against Leeds in the F.A cup.

Probably my favourite game where we got beat.

Top of Div 1 playing Premier League leaders - we played really well, great game and that Leeds team were fantastic to watch...............
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We got absolutely mullered by Leeds that day. Once they decided to click into 2nd gear and above we were chasing shadows.
 
johnnytapia said:
We got absolutely mullered by Leeds that day. Once they decided to click into 2nd gear and above we were chasing shadows.
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Hopefully Leeds fans will remember that this team was all built on false accounting and a house of cards, before they start pissing and moaning about money next week. But I doubt it
 
When someone starts using an accusatory tone and pointing at a “future City manager” I always envisage scenes similar to the investigation room at Yorkshire Police when Peter S was up to no good mixed with a bit of Jaws...
“You’re gonna need a bigger room”:
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