IF hughes was to go

brass neck said:
Chippy_boy said:
[Even if it means us being relegated?

How long would you leave it before you said "oh shit - we really are going down" and then decided to boot him out? How long would you give a new manager to try to save us?

This is a serious question. Blackburn got rid of Ince not because they thought he was crap, but because they realised that if they were going to replace him, they'd better give the new guy a decent chance of saving them. No use sacking Ince after say 35 games when all hope is lost.

Well while we are two wins from top half of the table, I dont see a imminent problem, Ince was sacked because he wasnt getting results at all and he didnt have a C.V which included premiership experience, Hughes is getting the occasional result and has a bloody good C.V.

Would you take 8th in the league right now?

2 wins and we could easly be there.
People keep saying this. "We're only 2 wins from mid table", "2 wins and we'll be right back in it". Well, we've only managed 2 wins in our last 13 league games. We've only managed 5 wins all season. When exactly are we going to get these 2 wins?
 
brass neck said:
Gelsons Dad said:
We are not 2 wins off 8th place. We are 6 points behind 8th place. The ten teams between us and 8th cannot all loose the next 2 games.
Well yes your right of corse..........All im saying is its easy to get alarmed at the sight of us in the relegation zone when in fact its a very close league this year, one or two lesser teams have got off two a good start and we have huffed and puffed while a new manager with a new way of doing things has got his feet under the table, eventually he will win the power struggle because he is a winner, he will build a team with players who want to play for him, he will sort out our leaky defence and he will by a striker who knows what the big white rectangle thing is. trust me...the glass is half full not half empty!!!

Well I would love to trust you but I can see the truth. If you look at the results since the breakdown between Hughes and Elano you will see that we are the worst team in the league right now and that won't change until the manager goes. He has lost the confidence of his subordinates and when that happens the only solution is a change at the top.
 
brass neck said:
Gelsons Dad said:
We are not 2 wins off 8th place. We are 6 points behind 8th place. The ten teams between us and 8th cannot all loose the next 2 games.
Well yes your right of corse..........All im saying is its easy to get alarmed at the sight of us in the relegation zone when in fact its a very close league this year, one or two lesser teams have got off two a good start and we have huffed and puffed while a new manager with a new way of doing things has got his feet under the table, eventually he will win the power struggle because he is a winner, he will build a team with players who want to play for him, he will sort out our leaky defence and he will by a striker who knows what the big white rectangle thing is. trust me...the glass is half full not half empty!!!

God I hope you are right. I really do. Dear Father Christmas.....
 
Matty said:
People keep saying this. "We're only 2 wins from mid table", "2 wins and we'll be right back in it". Well, we've only managed 2 wins in our last 13 league games. We've only managed 5 wins all season. When exactly are we going to get these 2 wins?

And you have to say we look less and less likely to get them by the day. We started the season OK and have gone to pieces. It's not like we started terribly (a la Spuds) and are gradually putting the bits in place. Quite the other way around. Started OK and game by game Hughes is dismantling it.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Matty said:
People keep saying this. "We're only 2 wins from mid table", "2 wins and we'll be right back in it". Well, we've only managed 2 wins in our last 13 league games. We've only managed 5 wins all season. When exactly are we going to get these 2 wins?

And you have to say we look less and less likely to get them by the day. We started the season OK and have gone to pieces. It's not like we started terribly (a la Spuds) and are gradually putting the bits in place. Quite the other way around. Started OK and game by game Hughes is dismantling it.
Yeah, it's kind of like the longer he's here, influencing the players/tactics/moral the worse it gets, strange that. Still, lets give him time.
 

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