If the rot continues what happens ?

Coatigan said:
Do you think we will win 1 game in the next 12?

To quote a chinese factory manager, or Donald Trump, fuck the environment! We as a team thrived in the face of toxic environment, and if people think Pep has 'lost the dressing room', I am happy to endure the time till he finds the ****.



We are not mate. Look at Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd, Leicester the seasons after they last won the league. 1 league, not 4! Liverpool barely finished 4th with a freak keeper goal after losing 6 at Anfield in a row, Leicester just about avoided relegation, Chelsea mid tabled it and utd became a total shishow. And that's just in this league. We are 4th points off top 4 even after this disasterous run, and have sat lower in the table (9th) the season we set the record for a winning run of games.
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Did you think we'd go 1 win out of 12 to begin with?

This team is terrible, we're conceding at a comical rate, I don't have any confidence that we we're capable of winning PL matches. The point is, it can't carry on being *this* bad. That isn't sustainable as much as us fans want Pep to stay and to rebuild, he has to make the situation semi respectable.
 
TinFoilHat said:
This rapid dip in performance reminds me of Mercedes in F1 after the Abu Dhabi farce. The mentality went.

Part of me thinks we're the same and have been since Real Madrid robbed us last season.

I trust the club structure will come through eventually.
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The accountants took over F1 and the cost cap hit the likes of Mercedes hard, before then they had an unlimited budget, and they also lost key technical staff.
 
Keeper! said:
The accountants took over F1 and the cost cap hit the likes of Mercedes hard, before then they had an unlimited budget, and they also lost key technical staff.
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It's just feels the same to me.

The mental drop off especially.

Don't want to see the Scouse cunts win 4 in a row* before we get our shit together again.


*They won't
 
wattle said:
If true, that’s a massive kick in the face for us fans. They really don’t give a toss do they
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When I saw this story about different colour kits, I thought surely no adult would actually give a shit about something so silly....
 
wolviedinho said:
Pep won’t change his approach so we got to find players who can do it better than the current set. It’s a clear identify issue. Abandoning it is not an option for pep. He would rather lose games.
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This is exactly what the Tarquins fans said in the final years of Wenger.

Not a criticism of you mate, just an observation.

Pep has tweaked the formula over the years a lot more than Wenger ever did, so hopefully that’s where the similarities end!
 
Manchester33 said:
City have announced today that they will be playing in two kits during the club world cup. Neither of which are blue. They actually pointed out they were stepping away from our traditional colours.

The rot OFF the pitch is far more concerning to me than the Rot ON the pitch!
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FFS that’s mental
 
TinFoilHat said:
It's just feels the same to me.

The mental drop off especially.

Don't want to see the Scouse cunts win 4 in a row* before we get our shit together again.


*They won't
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We just need to worry about ourselves that's all that matters and for me that has been a weakness of the club.

We seemed to have been scared of spending and what the reaction of football thinks of doing that.
 
Keeper! said:
This version of Pep maybe, to be honest I haven't got a scooby.

I am just tired of watching the same issues every game and no changes made.

This is new territory for the great man, and so far he is not handling it well at all.
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It's 12 games out of a decade of dominance.

12 games is all it took for you to be tired of Pep and questioning him?
 
argyle said:
It's 12 games out of a decade of dominance.

12 games is all it took for you to be tired of Pep and questioning him?
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Everyone has a time limit no one goes on forever.

Pep is the ultimate winner but he looks so broken at the moment that's the worry for me and the players seemed to have picked up on that.
 
Keeper! said:
Everyone has a time limit no one goes on forever.

Pep is the ultimate winner but he looks so broken at the moment that's the worry for me and the players seemed to have picked up on that.
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I just hope the lad is OK, his mental health matters too even though it's easily forgotten.
 
mexico1970 said:
I just hope the lad is OK, his mental health matters too even though it's easily forgotten.
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100% probably the first time in his life he has experienced something like this, be looks utterly shocked by everything going on around him.

How long do you give him, if we go into January without a win , don't questions need to be asked?
 
Keeper! said:
100% probably the first time in his life he has experienced something like this, be looks utterly shocked by everything going on around him.

How long do you give him, if we go into January without a win , don't questions need to be asked?
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Wouldn't it be nice for him to realise we don't care what his current form is after what he has brought us over the years, take the pressure off him.

Maybe a meet and greet with fans so he knows where he stands (Players and manager way too distanced from the real fans and only have the media to gauge feelings off really) you know have a normal conversation with fans who think a lot of him.

How long do we give him? On a personal level I don't care how shit we are because of what we have achieved and I would give him however long it takes for him to get it right again.
 
Roachy said:
A thing of note that was obvious to me against the scum and Villa, 2nd half especially. Our collective press has all but disappeared, but more so the players are standing 3 to 4 yds off the opponent when they're in possession. It's giving them time and space to pass with relative ease.
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Correct. Get some feckin tackles in,get up close and leave you opponent on his arse if necessary.I long for another Ferni!!
 
It's a great test for Pep, tactically, psychologically and intellectually. I'm reading World War 1 stuff at the moment and the similarities to the military leaders is striking. The invention and improvements of the machine gun changed battle tactics forever. You could no longer use your highly trained motivated army to just charge at the opposition and let your superior soldiers prevail. They just got shot down and slaughtered. So the war settled down into a defensive stalemate interspersed with military leaders losing their heads and sending their men to face the machine gun bullets. The bullets always won. Pep needs to evolve and discover new tactics (tanks, aeroplanes, nuclear bombs) to counter the machine gun.
 
Eric Hitchmough said:
This is exactly what the Tarquins fans said in the final years of Wenger.

Not a criticism of you mate, just an observation.

Pep has tweaked the formula over the years a lot more than Wenger ever did, so hopefully that’s where the similarities end!
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I would love for him to change it up but this is pep we are talking about here. Probably one of the greatest minds to study the game.

You got to trust him through the bad.

If we end up going down the Wenger road then so be it. We will never have a manger like him again and i think we all need to remember that. Plenty of times in the near future we will be calling for a managers head but not this one.
 
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