Ilkay Gundogan - 2019/20 Performances

Discussion in 'Player Performances' started by David 'El Mago' Silva, 12 Jul 2019.

  1. karen7

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    Explain whst i made up
     
  2. jaigurugoat

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    Gundo and Silva together doesn't work, not mobile enough and gives KDB too much to do defensively. The 3-4-3 with Rodri DM and Kev given more licence is our best formation but yesterday Pep seemed to revert back to the system that wasn't working before.
     
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  3. Dax777

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    A non existent last chance. Y

    wanted there to be one. There wasn't one. There were many in the prior 96. Hoofing the ball forward wasn't gonna create a chance out of thin air. This isn't Alan Ball's 95 squad.

    We simply didn't have a chance. Period. Pretending there was one that didn't materialize because Gundogan passed a ball is simply a figment of your creative mind.
     
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    For anyone to single Gundogan out from yesterday's performance is to identify exactly what has been an issue with our club for decades; he had a decent game yesterday but is being villified by those who had made up their minds a long time ago. Looking back at the matchday thread, it is clear that any mistake he makes is exaggerated beyond all proportion while his successes are often passed on to someone else or ignored by many. It is a shame as he is such a talented player who gives us a lot. In actual fact, for large portions of yesterday, our front line did not press aggressively enough (KDB apart) and so we allowed Palace to reshape easily into their twin banks of five. When we play that way, it is too easy for inferior opposition to nullify our game and exploit our shape. It is also clear that Silva and Aguero are not going to give what we need in that sense, true greats though they are.
     
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  5. Dax777

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    This season, here is how are front group ranks in terms of pressure

    Jesus, Foden, Kevin, Bernado, Mahrez, Sterling, Aguero then David..

    We played the 3 weakest pressers today and it showed
     
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    Generally. I don't know what he does that Rodri, Foden and even Doyle can't. Yesterday has proven yet again that in certain games Silva and Gundo can't play in the same midfield. Slows our tempo and against a sea of players, just doesn't work. So frustrating.
     
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    Agree with you but how is Gundogan's pressing ranking against KDB, Bernardo, Foden, Silva, Rodri, Doyle , Bolton and my dead grandfather ?
     
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    I think what Karen was saying was if we (Gundogan) had hit a long ball towards the Palace area a chance may have presented itself whereby playing short passes on the half way line when times almost up isn't going to get us a goal..

    Pumping it long at the death seldom works but I understand what Karen was saying..

    To give Gundogan a break though, in the stadium, the clock doesn't show the added time ticking down, it stops at 90 minutes, so maybe he thought there was a bit more time left than there actually was..!
     
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  9. ChicagoBlue

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    He could, indeed, but instead people blame Gundogan for coming out but leaving the CF at the back post!

    KDB was at fault for not getting out quicker, Stones was to blame for not getting anything on the original cross, and Gundogan was to blame for not staying with the man/men at the back post! Enough blame to go around.

    Never quite understood our defence of set pieces under Pep, as he has virtually no height then uses zonal marking for the most part.
     
  10. Fast Forward To The Past

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    Good post. Kevin is in front of Jesus and Foden if you take into account the starting position and lenght of his pressing runs. The man is a monster.
     

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