Ilkay Gundogan

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Downgrade to what? As of now we still don’t know who is leaving. You can’t compare departure to arrivals. Each player will bring different qualities. Gundo used to get buckets of shit for not producing until pep allowed him to play further forward. Foden needs to be starting regularly in the middle. Would you say he is an upgrade on Gundo?

The club just won a treble, we need to freshen up the squad. I don’t agree he is a downgrade as we don’t know how he will be used.
Foden moving to the middle is perfect but a midfield 3 of KDB, Rodri and Foden is not likely
 
While True, it's almost impossible to overlook Kevin. He is the best player, City's greatest ever player, and the last and only Member left from the Pre-Pep era.

He is by right, class and seniority the only option.

Granted, when he is on the mend, Dias will be my choice with Walker, Stones and Rodri as vices
The new captain assuming Gundo leave must be Dias. He is a warrior
 

sounds incredibly vague and not in the know.

i dont get why any player would leave the best team ever when he's just captained them to a treble. lifting that trophy in instanbul couldnt have got more perfect for him.

His options are……Barcelona in a league that is rapidly losing its lustre. A dortmnud that has been ripped apart?

Dont tell me its for the weather or whatever. his career is another 2-3 years and then hes got the rest of his life to do whatever he wants.

Maybe they all secretly cant stand Pep and his neurotic ways
 
We’re not in possession of all the facts and conversations he’s had with the club but, on the face of it, it does kind of seem like he’s just been stalling us to wait for Barca to work out his registration. Claiming he hadn’t made his mind up yet just feels like a lie to me. Even Pep said recently Gundo hasn’t made his mind up yet. I don’t buy it. Wish he’d have been more open with the club as we lost ground on potential replacements.

Aside from that though, what an incredible player he’s been for us. All the best Gundo.
 
This is silly. You don't have to like them. But they are a storied franchise and they just won the league. You making out like they are Millwall or something
They are a great franchise that can't pay their bills.
 
Thanks Gundo. You have been terrific. Good luck…. Now to the Uncle Bens thread.
 
Haha the Sly Sports negativity on the Kovacic to City article. Mentions of age and poor stats, good value for Chelsea etc. Let's face it, 3 years ago we'd have all thought Kovacic was the better player over Gundogan. Ilkay proved his worth to us when he was approaching his 30s, what a man and what a player. He will be sorely missed but bows out as a City legend and I wish him all the best.
 
If we knew this was a possibility for a long time it’s hard to understand why we’d let MacAllister go to Liverpool without competition. Would be a perfect Gundo replacement. Can only assume we have something else lined up. Really really hope it’s not Rice
 
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