Incident at Liverpool Title Parade May 26th

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give it to gordon said:
What was interesting when watching the itv early news yesterday was they showed the clip of his car being attacked.
It was really noticeable how this attack on the car was ignored. No mention that this could have caused the driver to panic.
Itv seem to except it was OK to attack the car before the driver did what he did.

Thought it really odd to ignore the attack on the car.

Yes the driver is in the wrong but there's no doubt that attacking his car also added to the innocent, those thugs are responsible to for what happened, yet completely ignored by itv news
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I saw them explain the window was smashed but as if there was no idea how it occurred. Why not provide facts?
 
I wish the media would stop saying it was tailgating the ambulance. That's not what the police said and there is no footage showing it tailgating. Very sloppy journalism, the BBC included. Tell us facts!.
 
65 injured now, the final count will be in the hundreds, terrible.
Also hundreds will have been scarred by what they saw on Water Street.
GDM time.
 
hello said:
The post he quoted was mine. I would still say any competent copper knows how to operate a roadblock. So simply the fact the car which wasn’t the only one was on the street is a failing of Merseyside police as either an organisation or an individual copper being fucking shite and incompetent. If you’re operating a roadblock you have one job to do and it’s not a particularly difficult one.
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See, there you go again. Was it a copper operating the roadblock?
 
I have not read any other posts in the thread, so apologies if the point already raised?

I heard people were trying to smash the car windows and that the driver was "continually sounding his horn". It doesn't sound like the driver was deliberately trying to kill people if he was sounding his horn?

Possiblbly more like he was trying to escape an angry mob? We have seen many times Liverpool supporters go feral leading to mob fear and panic?...

If the driver was on drugs it probably makes him behave more irrationally too.

Sounds like a tragic accident?
 
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Plain Speaking said:
I have not read any other posts in the thread, so apologies if the point already raised?

I heard people were trying to smash the car windows and that the driver was "continually sounding his horn". It doesn't sound like the driver was deliberately trying to kill people if he was sounding his horn?

Possiblbly more like he was trying to escape an angry mob? We have seen many times Liverpool supporters go feral leading to panic?...

If the driver was on drugs it probably makes him behave more irrationally too.
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here we go again....

I think its time to lock this thread until charges are brought or until a trial.

As usual things like this descend into anti police hate or stuff brought up from decades ago in an attempt to justify one person's behaviour and support people's cognitive bias.
 
RiversideBlue said:
I wish the media would stop saying it was tailgating the ambulance. That's not what the police said and there is no footage showing it tailgating. Very sloppy journalism, the BBC included. Tell us facts!.
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He definitely did tailgate the ambulance, which was responding to a suspected heart attack. The barriers were opened for less than a minute to allow the ambulance in, and he followed it. Now, he might well not have known he wasn't supposed to go in there and that is why it's important that the sequencing is properly understood.
If he went in and hit someone or someone's with his car, then the attack on the car happened that quite different than if he was sitting waiting for the crowd to disperse, and was attacked for no apparent reason.

Thing is, off his tits on coke and now charged with attempted (edited) murder means he's bolloxed, and rightly so.
 
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bert38 said:
here we go again....

I think its time to lock this thread until charges are brought or until a trial.

As usual things like this descend into anti police hate or stuff brought up from decades ago in an attempt to justify one person's behaviour and support people's cognitive bias.
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I have not read the thread, not sure I am saying anything disputed or controversial? We have seen Liverpool fans attack our team bus they have a history of aggressive feral behaviour in that area?
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
He definitely did tailgate the ambulance, which was responding to a suspected heart attack. The barriers were opened for less than a minute to allow the ambulance in, and he followed it. Now, he might well not have known he wasn't supposed to go in there and that is why it's important that the sequencing is properly understood.
If he went in and hit someone or someone's with his car, then the attack on the car happened that quite different than if he was sitting waiting for the crowd to disperse, and was attacked for no apparent reason.

Thing is, off his tits on coke and now charged with murder means he's bolloxed, and rightly so.
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Well you don't know he definitely did unless you have footage nobody else has? In that less than a minute quite a few cars must have done the same (doubtful) as there are several videos of him and other cars navigating through. He is bollocksed and whatever happened to cause the rage (having your windows smashed in for starters) is now irrelevant as he shouldn't have been behind the wheel.
 
Plain Speaking said:
I have not read the thread, not sure I am saying anything disputed or controversial? We have seen Liverpool fans attack our team bus they have a history of aggressive feral behaviour in that area?
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Some blues are as scared as the media to highlight the behaviour of liverpool fans in this incident and any others in the past. What you have said isn't controversial, although like I have just posted, it doesn't matter how it all started now due to him being on drugs, at that point he has lost any defence he previously had.
 
bert38 said:
here we go again....

I think its time to lock this thread until charges are brought or until a trial.

As usual things like this descend into anti police hate or stuff brought up from decades ago in an attempt to justify one person's behaviour and support people's cognitive bias.
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You’ve done your best to explain how things would have happened from the police’s’ viewpoint.

You’ll never stop people believing that they’d have done a better job than the actual police as they’d have ignored the rule book and just applied “common sense.”

Someone even said that they lost interest in the incident when they found out that it wasn’t terrorism.

People just enjoy being angry, it seems.
 
give it to gordon said:
I be surprised if it was a copper, more likely a paid marshal with training.
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I could speculate, pour over videos or look on twitter to find out but what's the fucking point?
Is it so i could embolden my prejudices and re-enforce a view about police/scouse police/scousers etc?
Or maybe it would show that i know more about planning a parade route and how easy it should be to stop anything at all going wrong?
This thread is full of hyperbole, inaccuracies and what can only be described as complete bollox. Any sympathy for the injured and affected soon gets washed away in the drive for people to be proved 'right' about some shit or other.
 
I see a right wing "comedian" who I will not name appears to have torched his career over this. Made a "clever" tweet about the city and the incident and when challenged doubled down with other "clever" responses and is now getting gigs cancelled and is bleating about Cancel Culture ffs.

Thats why right wing comedians are not funny - their "comedy" usually revolves around punching down and picking on the little people and minorities
 
claiming there were 1.5 million people were there, or basically one in 40 of the uk population, considering nearly 10 million are over 70, and 13 million under 16, and a huge proportion have no interest in football, what is it about these cunts that they have to lie about everything, just for context their 15km route would have to be 50 deep each side of the ride for every metre, i smell bullshit
 
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