allblackcitizen said:svennis pennis said:What are you on about?
I am asking the question of why risk him if he was concerned about an injury. It is, I think a fair question. I am in no way accusing of Hughes trying to risk the health of a football player FFS. It was a risk, and one that ultimately pointless in hindsight as you put it. But without the benefit of hindsight, the concern was already there.
The level of concern about the injury obviously didn't outweigh the risk of Robinho playing. He was judged fit to play, by both management and player, otherwise he wouldn't have done. Simple as. But you're trying to portray it as another example of poor tactics and bad management on Hughes' part, which i don't necessarily agree with, and have gone on to say that it could be the defining mistake of his tenure and one which will see him out a job because somehow Robinho and his agent have started running MCFC. That's being melodramatic, in my view.
svennis pennis said:allblackcitizen said:The level of concern about the injury obviously didn't outweigh the risk of Robinho playing. He was judged fit to play, by both management and player, otherwise he wouldn't have done. Simple as. But you're trying to portray it as another example of poor tactics and bad management on Hughes' part, which i don't necessarily agree with, and have gone on to say that it could be the defining mistake of his tenure and one which will see him out a job because somehow Robinho and his agent have started running MCFC. That's being melodramatic, in my view.
i have not been melodramatic at all. If the game was such a must win, then why did he field essentially the back ups?
He had one eye on Sunday. risking Robinho was a mistake. Even you have admitted that. I was not insinuating anything more sinister so why are you even having an argument about it?
allblackcitizen said:No I haven't, because I don't think it was. Yes you were.
DontLookBackInAnger said:A lot of comments on the board over the last day or two have made the point that the reason city as a club are unsuccessful is because we want instant success. I disagree in fact we draw 40k plus most games, hell, we are getting close to a 1,000 fans for every year without success. What people want is a manager that shows signs of moving the club forward, both short term and long term. Last season SGE was showing signs of that and MOST fans thought he should have got another year. I was in the camp that really didn't want Hughes(nothing to do with his playing career), but he made me reconsider early on. However, since the PSG game at home something has changed, that is very worrying. Take the 1st and 3rd goals last night as they where really telling, both where caused by lack of preparation and/or application. As a city fan you learn pretty quickly that there are days when we simply play crap and get beat, that I can take, but more and more we are losing because the club seems woefully unprepared for the questions other teams are asking. Football is often a very simple game and teams are asking basic questions of us, and more and more we have no answers. Please don't take this as an anti-Hughes post, frankly I'm ambivalent to whether he stays or goes, I just want the coaching staff to get their act together and prepare the club to the job at hand. Do I want instant success, no, but what I do want is a team that looks like it didn't just meet in the car park 15mins before the game.
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:DontLookBackInAnger said:A lot of comments on the board over the last day or two have made the point that the reason city as a club are unsuccessful is because we want instant success. I disagree in fact we draw 40k plus most games, hell, we are getting close to a 1,000 fans for every year without success. What people want is a manager that shows signs of moving the club forward, both short term and long term. Last season SGE was showing signs of that and MOST fans thought he should have got another year. I was in the camp that really didn't want Hughes(nothing to do with his playing career), but he made me reconsider early on. However, since the PSG game at home something has changed, that is very worrying. Take the 1st and 3rd goals last night as they where really telling, both where caused by lack of preparation and/or application. As a city fan you learn pretty quickly that there are days when we simply play crap and get beat, that I can take, but more and more we are losing because the club seems woefully unprepared for the questions other teams are asking. Football is often a very simple game and teams are asking basic questions of us, and more and more we have no answers. Please don't take this as an anti-Hughes post, frankly I'm ambivalent to whether he stays or goes, I just want the coaching staff to get their act together and prepare the club to the job at hand. Do I want instant success, no, but what I do want is a team that looks like it didn't just meet in the car park 15mins before the game.
My sentiments exactly. Reinforce the notion of meeting up in the car park but the performance often looks as though they have known each other for a lot less than 15 minutes bonding
svennis pennis said:allblackcitizen said:No I haven't, because I don't think it was. Yes you were.
Jesus christ, give it a rest. you sound like a nagging old woman.
allblackcitizen said:svennis pennis said:Jesus christ, give it a rest. you sound like a nagging old woman.
Could say the same fella. You seem like one of those who always has to have the last word, even if it's not worth saying.