Irish Women’s Team singing pro IRA chant

[hammocity]

Absolutely. Singing up the Ra is just fist pumping patriotism sung in a moment. Those girls sang it joyously without a hint of malice.
How many of us City fans have sung the ' Munich ' song in a frenzied pre match singalong not intending any ill will on the families but because it was seen as a pro City song.
The Ra doesn't refer to the provos but to the old IRA and the fight for freedom against British imperialism. Something that the likes of Rob Wootton might want to educate himself the next time he sings rule brittania

Speak for yourself, I’ve never ever chanted about Munich, I find that as offensive as the Irish ladies “celebrations” they’re out of order, no excuses.

 

[law74]

It was absolutely shameful, but symptomatic of an idea that the "ra" were a somewhat loveable bunch rather than the gang of murdering scum that was reality.
As someone who, as a three year old child was awoken by gunshots 300 yards down the Street when this scum murdered a decent family man, had my 6th birthday meal ruined because this scum created a bombscare close to the restaurant my parents had taken me to for a treat, had to leave primary school on a number of occasions by the rear gate because the front gate lead to a bomb this scum had planted, and have followed the coffins of friends and friends father's murdered by this scum, any and every time ANYONE tries to glorify their actions they need called out on it and EDUCATED.
This is, let's remember an organisation that kidnapped a mother of ten children, dragged her away and murdered her, buried her remains and refused the family even the decency of a burial.

Am I offended by a group of girls glorifying this bunch of criminal murdering scum? Most certainly.

 

[Semper aggressus]

IRA are terrorist scum and murdering bastards, and there’s no reason or excuse for glorifying them in songs or anything else.

 

[hammocity]

It was absolutely shameful, but symptomatic of an idea that the "ra" were a somewhat loveable bunch rather than the gang of murdering scum that was reality.
As someone who, as a three year old child was awoken by gunshots 300 down the Street when this scum murdered a decent family man, had my 6th birthday meal ruined because this scum created a bombscare close to the restaurant my parents had taken me to for a treat, had to leaverimary school on a number of occasions by the rear gate because the front gate lead to a bomb this scum had planted, and have followed the coffins of friends and friends father's murdered by this scum, any and every time ANYONE tries to glorify their actions they need called out on it and EDUCATED.
This is, let's remember an organisation that kidnapped a mother often children, dragged her away and murdered her, buried her remains and refused the family even the decency of a burial.

Am I offended by a group of girls glorifying this bunch of criminal murdering scum? Most certainly.

Just this

 

[Roachy]

IRA are terrorist scum and murdering bastards, and there’s no reason or excuse for glorifying them in songs or anything else.

Well said.

 

[Scaley]

IRA are terrorist scum and murdering bastards, and there’s no reason or excuse for glorifying them in songs or anything else.

What he said.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Discussing this at work.

After qualifying for the world cup, they recorded themselves singing an IRA song in the dressing room and uploaded it to Youtube (of course)

I feel some of them are too young to know about the troubles but they surely know the history of it?

Young women having fun with no intentions of offending anyone is my guess but there are thousands of family’s affected from what the IRA have done

Are the media going over the top?

Thoughts?

My thoughts are they should be made to visit the families of Tim Parry and Johnathan Ball who were killed by an IRA bomb in Warrington in 1993.

See if they still want to sing a pro-IRA song then the daft cunts.

Even if they intended no harm, maybe they need a bit of education on it nonetheless?

 

[aguero93:20]

My thoughts are they should be made to visit the families of Tim Parry and Johnathan Ball who were killed by an IRA bomb in Warrington in 1993.

See if they still want to sing a pro-IRA song then the daft cunts.

Even if they intended no harm, maybe they need a bit of education on it nonetheless?

More education is absolutely necessary lad, but the girls meant no harm.

 

[blueinsa]

The IRA were responsible for the deaths of over 1700 people. Singing a song celebrating them is not acceptable in the exact same way it wouldn’t be acceptable singing about loyalist terrorist organisations responsible for murder.

Football is non political like it or not.

The women where stupid in their actions and know it as does the FAI.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I meant beyond the Daily Mail, the Sun and the Express ;-)

Glad it gave you a chuckle though.
I was trying to elaborate to explain my opinion, as I thought that if you knew anything about the sordid crimes against humanity perpetrated by Britain abroad then you’d be a tad more understanding as to why some folk living under British military occupation might kick back against it, albeit in a very small way compared with the suffering served up to them.
And it certainly wasn’t my intention to upset you as you’re a fellow Blue and anyhow, nothing makes an entrenched view dig deeper than pissing someone off.

And, no offence to anyone, but I’m not going to respond again in this thread because IMO regardless of the connection, via the Irish ladies, it was a post match incident that really has no bearing on football and I think it should be in off topic - where I’d avoid it like the plague.

Not this again. Yes, a lot of bad things happened in the building of the British Empire. A lot of bad things happened in the building of all empires. They are a product of their time, just as what happens now is a product of our time. I would suggest things that happened 150, 200, 300, 400 years ago, no matter how bad we think they are now, were more in keeping with their time, than a campaign of action by a minority against civilian populations for political ends 50 years ago, but maybe that is just me.

It's the same argument that is used against countries who currently have less developed social and governance structures. Basically, having grappled with the issues of universal suffrage, women's rights, sexual orientation and the rest for 200 years, we have come to a situation where some feel we have some sort of right to tell other countries, who haven't been through that process, how to behave. It's nonsense. Encourage them by all means, but give them time.

You really can't look at history through today's lens, in the same way you shouldn't look at other parts of the world impatiently and arrogantly through our lens either.