Is Manchester a tough place to live in?

balotellishaircut said:
Sounds like your describing most cities in the Uk, I work in Manchester and people like yourself go way overboard with the homelessness and deprivation, it’s far worse in other places.
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People like me go overboard. Well I am sorry that it is far worse in other places, but this thread is about Manchester, not a city I work in but a city I have lived in all my life.

A city that has some of the most deprived areas in Europe not just the UK and as for going overboard about homelessness, 1 person homeless is 1 person to many in a decent country. I have worked with the homeless of Manchester and I have seen the problems that they face, I do not just walk past them on the way to a job in our city, I have listened to peoples stories, I have heard their fears, I have learnt about their lives, I have visited homeless charities, I have seen the deprivation first hand. I have worked on solutions, i have worked on the problems they face, I have worked with those who are seldom seen or heard and believe me I am not going overboard in fact i was reticent about it.

Apart from the problems with homelessness

620,000 people in Manchester live in poverty
200,000 children live in households below the poverty line
157,000 households are in fuel poverty
20% of jobs in Manchester are paid at rates below the living wage.
585,000 residents living in neighbourhoods which are in the most deprived 10% in the country.

I love Manchester, I think its the greatest city on the planet, but I hate seeing Manchester people in poverty because Mancunians are the finest people on the planet.

While Manchester itself generates £31,000 of economic growth per person living there, in the north east of the conurbation – Tameside, Rochdale and Oldham – the figure is less than half that, at £15,231.

There are 180,000 working age people with no qualifications, and particular problems with low qualifications in some parts of the conurbation. In 2015, 37.3% of people in Oldham and 33.9% in Rochdale had qualifications below NVQ level 2, compared with 18.8% in Trafford.

The above is from a report from the Joseph Rowntree Foundation which was disseminated by the University of Manchester and led by Prof Ruth Lupton lead author of the report and head of the Inclusive Growth Analysis Unit, she said: “That levels of poverty and inequality remain so high in Greater Manchester is unjust and a waste of too many people’s talents and energies. We urgently need to find ways to include more people in the benefits of increased prosperity”

Manchester has one of the biggest inequality gaps in the UK and I personally welcome the Government devolving power to Manchester so Manchester can target Mancunian problems and I am involved with an organisation working to make Manchester a better place for everyone.

Facts are not going overboard, facts matter.
 
Rascal said:
People like me go overboard. Well I am sorry that it is far worse in other places, but this thread is about Manchester, not a city I work in but a city I have lived in all my life.

A city that has some of the most deprived areas in Europe not just the UK and as for going overboard about homelessness, 1 person homeless is 1 person to many in a decent country. I have worked with the homeless of Manchester and I have seen the problems that they face, I do not just walk past them on the way to a job in our city, I have listened to peoples stories, I have heard their fears, I have learnt about their lives, I have visited homeless charities, I have seen the deprivation first hand. I have worked on solutions, i have worked on the problems they face, I have worked with those who are seldom seen or heard and believe me I am not going overboard in fact i was reticent about it.

Apart from the problems with homelessness

620,000 people in Manchester live in poverty
200,000 children live in households below the poverty line
157,000 households are in fuel poverty
20% of jobs in Manchester are paid at rates below the living wage.
585,000 residents living in neighbourhoods which are in the most deprived 10% in the country.

I love Manchester, I think its the greatest city on the planet, but I hate seeing Manchester people in poverty because Mancunians are the finest people on the planet.

While Manchester itself generates £31,000 of economic growth per person living there, in the north east of the conurbation – Tameside, Rochdale and Oldham – the figure is less than half that, at £15,231.

There are 180,000 working age people with no qualifications, and particular problems with low qualifications in some parts of the conurbation. In 2015, 37.3% of people in Oldham and 33.9% in Rochdale had qualifications below NVQ level 2, compared with 18.8% in Trafford.

The above is from a report from the Joseph Rowntree Foundation which was disseminated by the University of Manchester and led by Prof Ruth Lupton lead author of the report and head of the Inclusive Growth Analysis Unit, she said: “That levels of poverty and inequality remain so high in Greater Manchester is unjust and a waste of too many people’s talents and energies. We urgently need to find ways to include more people in the benefits of increased prosperity”

Manchester has one of the biggest inequality gaps in the UK and I personally welcome the Government devolving power to Manchester so Manchester can target Mancunian problems and I am involved with an organisation working to make Manchester a better place for everyone.

Facts are not going overboard, facts matter.
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Too many commies :)
 
Rascal said:
People like me go overboard. Well I am sorry that it is far worse in other places, but this thread is about Manchester, not a city I work in but a city I have lived in all my life.

A city that has some of the most deprived areas in Europe not just the UK and as for going overboard about homelessness, 1 person homeless is 1 person to many in a decent country. I have worked with the homeless of Manchester and I have seen the problems that they face, I do not just walk past them on the way to a job in our city, I have listened to peoples stories, I have heard their fears, I have learnt about their lives, I have visited homeless charities, I have seen the deprivation first hand. I have worked on solutions, i have worked on the problems they face, I have worked with those who are seldom seen or heard and believe me I am not going overboard in fact i was reticent about it.

Apart from the problems with homelessness

620,000 people in Manchester live in poverty
200,000 children live in households below the poverty line
157,000 households are in fuel poverty
20% of jobs in Manchester are paid at rates below the living wage.
585,000 residents living in neighbourhoods which are in the most deprived 10% in the country.

I love Manchester, I think its the greatest city on the planet, but I hate seeing Manchester people in poverty because Mancunians are the finest people on the planet.

While Manchester itself generates £31,000 of economic growth per person living there, in the north east of the conurbation – Tameside, Rochdale and Oldham – the figure is less than half that, at £15,231.

There are 180,000 working age people with no qualifications, and particular problems with low qualifications in some parts of the conurbation. In 2015, 37.3% of people in Oldham and 33.9% in Rochdale had qualifications below NVQ level 2, compared with 18.8% in Trafford.

The above is from a report from the Joseph Rowntree Foundation which was disseminated by the University of Manchester and led by Prof Ruth Lupton lead author of the report and head of the Inclusive Growth Analysis Unit, she said: “That levels of poverty and inequality remain so high in Greater Manchester is unjust and a waste of too many people’s talents and energies. We urgently need to find ways to include more people in the benefits of increased prosperity”

Manchester has one of the biggest inequality gaps in the UK and I personally welcome the Government devolving power to Manchester so Manchester can target Mancunian problems and I am involved with an organisation working to make Manchester a better place for everyone.

Facts are not going overboard, facts matter.
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I also work with people who use drugs so in association with homelessness, you say the gang culture and crack cocaine use is rife, I just don’t see it, you can throw these figures out there in your posts, when I don’t see it on the front line so to speak, figures don’t really mean much, we have to agree to disagree.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Yep,a shithole.....people are kidding themselves (and certainly havent been far) if they think otherwise.
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Have to agree living and working especially around the less desirable people and areas in this town, they majority of don’t give a shits is getting bigger. It doesn’t take much to put rubbish in a bin or be civil but soon I won’t have to deal with the majority of them when I retire. I actually get wound up just driving round these days that I’d rather stay at home and shut the door, if I can’t see it I don’t get wound up. I can’t really speak for other parts of the country apart from the south coast Eastbourne where my best mate lives and that seems spotless every time I go, Brighton is nice as well.
 
Bill Walker said:
Ahh ok mate. We usually take a stroll up Hastings St.
Did you do the clifftop walking path, gorgeous.
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Yeah, did that stunning walk. Best for me was chatting to the early morning surfers over coffee and cold pizza on the beach. Dossed in a van on the car park, got pissed in the sailing club, fancy restaurant and scored some nice weed. All round a very memorable time.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Have to agree living and working especially around the less desirable people and areas in this town, they majority of don’t give a shits is getting bigger. It doesn’t take much to put rubbish in a bin or be civil but soon I won’t have to deal with the majority of them when I retire. I actually get wound up just driving round these days that I’d rather stay at home and shut the door, if I can’t see it I don’t get wound up. I can’t really speak for other parts of the country apart from the south coast Eastbourne where my best mate lives and that seems spotless every time I go, Brighton is nice as well.
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I think our opinions have been heavily influenced because of the numerous shitbags we have constantly encountered in our working lives.....and while i'm not so naive as to think the grass isnt always greener,we do seem to have more than our fair share.Then,like you say,its dirty....people dont give a shite,just selfish,obnoxious,morons everywhere.

Its sad but i find myself wishing the years away until i can retire.
 
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