Onholiday(somemightsay)
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Nowadays it's terrible........
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Is the England national team good or bad for City players?
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Bluesince1979
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Lack of top quality coach is the one. Southgate is championship levelCity are probably the top club team right now.
England are about the 8th best National team which is about where we always average. We are meant to get knocked out of tournaments in the QF and usually do. Despite what the press say it’s no disgrace. Given our football playing population it’s about right too.
A few years ago 538 did an analysis of club v national teams and arrived at a top 20. Only 7 national teams made it into the top 20 and their best team was 4th.
If we assume the same now then it will be no surprise to find out that a City player playing for any national side will be facing a drop in standard however small.
What the players do gain is experience of different situations and playing tournament football and, while this is impossible to measure, I would think this outweighs the drop in standard unless they are from a low ranked country that never progress to the latter stages.
England, given the average age of the squad, combined with current ability, have a good chance of being a trophy winning team in three years but we have seen this before and it didn’t work out usually because of club rivalry within the squad and the lack of a top quality coach.
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It’s certainly not good when we’ve been really careful with Stones all season, giving him plenty of rest between games, only to see him start three games in six days for England. If I happened to see Southgate this week I’d slap him in the face with a wet fish and kick him up the ricker with a pair of steel toe caps.
Injuries have nearly seen the lad end up sold, could have ruined his career. Yet Southgate thinks he knows better than Pep and the City fitness team and slogs the lad.
What a **** you are Southgate.
Injuries have nearly seen the lad end up sold, could have ruined his career. Yet Southgate thinks he knows better than Pep and the City fitness team and slogs the lad.
What a **** you are Southgate.
1961_vintage
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Bad. Bad. Bad. Nothing but an over-hyped, self-entitled bunch of arrogant wankers coached by a beige buffoon.
citytill1die84
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Southgate is a League 1 level manager he shouldn't be anywhere near the England national team. Some people say he had a good world Cup yet we didn't beat anyone decent and lost to a very average Croatia side in the Semi finals, lost to Belgium twice and only managed to beat Colombia on pens.
Southgate is living off that and will be in charge for the Euros where we'll fuck up again.
Can't imagine being managed by Pep then going to Southgate.
Southgate is living off that and will be in charge for the Euros where we'll fuck up again.
Can't imagine being managed by Pep then going to Southgate.
Marklr
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I don't like all the negativity towards our national team. Shit or not...I support them always. As a City fan, i'm proud to see our boys getting caps. How far we've come though..we used to ALL be so proud when Whitey or Curle got a cap...now we're worried they may get injured or just lose form!
Sky Blue Thinking
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At the same time we were seething that Coton didnt get a cap but the likes of Ian Walker did. Used to be a big thing having international players but the squad system and number of international games and substitutes somewhat dilutes it. Years ago only elite players would reach say 50 caps, now international squad players can rack that up.I don't like all the negativity towards our national team. Shit or not...I support them always. As a City fan, i'm proud to see our boys getting caps. How far we've come though..we used to ALL be so proud when Whitey or Curle got a cap...now we're worried they may get injured or just lose form!
Marklr
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Yeah, you're right...still, i think we should always get behind the national team. We're Manc English, NOT Scouse!At the same time we were seething that Coton didnt get a cap but the likes of Ian Walker did. Used to be a big thing having international players but the squad system and number of international games and substitutes somewhat dilutes it. Years ago only elite players would reach say 50 caps, now international squad players can rack that up.
Lavinda Past
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International football is a waste of time and effort.
jimmygrimblesboots
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Dont know why any players would want to play for England , our media and fans absolutely hammer any player who makes a mistake or steps out of line its been like this for decades , if McGuire had made the same mistake as Stones i would have slaughtered him , because sometimes its just an excuse to belittle rival clubs footballers.