There are games he can come in and do a job but being a regular starter? Not for me. He's not fluid enough in possession for our tactics to work the way Pep wants. He's done well to turn his form around enough for me to consider him a good squad player, which considering I used to think he'd won a raffle to play for us is a credit to him.
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Is there a case for recalling Fernando
- Thread starter Marvin
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That is true. I think Fernando is easily capable of playing simple football, and it might not be so comfortable on the eye, but at the moment I think City can concede at any moment. I'd rather have the defensive protection, and I think City are good enough going forward to still score goals with the extra defensive player.
You're ignoring the fact that the attacking players need to be supplied with the ball to enable them to do their thing. Yaya has the capability to play eye of the needle type passes through midfield that break the lines and find our creative players in the pockets, Fernando struggles at this.
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Still have visions of us being mauled against Leicester with him in there.
Leave him for cup games or closing games, but thats it for me.
Leave him for cup games or closing games, but thats it for me.
cheddar404
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I'd very very surprised to see him as a regular in the side other than to see the game out. It's just now how Pep approaches setting up his teams. He simply isn't good enough on the ball. Every player in the team needs to be comfortable on the ball including the keeper. The sooner people realise this, the sooner they can stop wasting their breath. I actually think Fernando is a decent player; he's just not a good fit for a Pep team.
Agreed he does, and I am trading the ability of Toure on the ball for the defensive ability of Fernando. My argument was that De Bruyne and Silva have got Toure's passing range and what we'd lose would not be vital, but we'd be stronger overall.You're ignoring the fact that the attacking players need to be supplied with the ball to enable them to do their thing. Yaya has the capability to play eye of the needle type passes through midfield that break the lines and find our creative players in the pockets, Fernando struggles at this.
Guardiola doesn't seem to agree, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Guardiola make a change to he way we play in the final third of the season.
At the moment we are not the end product. There's still another jigsaw piece to go in. Ideally we'd fill it with a young Toure. I accept that Fernando is a one trick player. Maybe Guardiola wants ll his players to be very comfortable on the ball, but at the same time we somehow must beef up the defensive side of our game. It could be done with buying 4 Thiago Silvas, but that's not going to happen. Chelsea have a pretty average back 4, and are defensively so solid. Guardiola isn't going to copy Conte.
When I was watching City v Swansea, the whole ground just knew that unless City scored a second goal, Swansea were going to equalise. I felt the same at 1-0 vs Bournemouth, and this is a relatively confident City in a good moment. I still feel the defensive frailty is there
So we sit and wait for next season to wield the cheque book again or look at an Academy player. Big trophies still up for grabs. Key to winning one will be to improve our defending. It's not good enough at the moment, and that's as a team, not a the defence per seI'd very very surprised to see him as a regular in the side other than to see the game out. It's just now how Pep approaches setting up his teams. He simply isn't good enough on the ball. Every player in the team needs to be comfortable on the ball including the keeper. The sooner people realise this, the sooner they can stop wasting their breath. I actually think Fernando is a decent player; he's just not a good fit for a Pep team.
Agreed he does, and I am trading the ability of Toure on the ball for the defensive ability of Fernando. My argument was that De Bruyne and Silva have got Toure's passing range and what we'd lose would not be vital, but we'd be stronger overall.
Guardiola doesn't seem to agree, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Guardiola make a change to he way we play in the final third of the season.
At the moment we are not the end product. There's still another jigsaw piece to go in. Ideally we'd fill it with a young Toure. I accept that Fernando is a one trick player. Maybe Guardiola wants ll his players to be very comfortable on the ball, but at the same time we somehow must beef up the defensive side of our game. It could be done with buying 4 Thiago Silvas, but that's not going to happen. Chelsea have a pretty average back 4, and are defensively so solid. Guardiola isn't going to copy Conte.
When I was watching City v Swansea, the whole ground just knew that unless City scored a second goal, Swansea were going to equalise. I felt the same at 1-0 vs Bournemouth, and this is a relatively confident City in a good moment. I still feel the defensive frailty is there
Naturally, because we play attacking football. I'd much rather see us making a success of playing this way than playing the risk averse shit that Chelsea or the rags play.
I don't agree with your argument, like I said the likes of Silva and DeBruyne need supply from deep.
cheddar404
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So we sit and wait for next season to wield the cheque book again or look at an Academy player. Big trophies still up for grabs. Key to winning one will be to improve our defending. It's not good enough at the moment, and that's as a team, not a the defence per se
Haven't you been watching us play recently? It's starting to come together. Putting in a defensive midfielder to make us defend better is not the way we play. We "defend" better by controlling the game and pressing the opposition when they have the ball. This is how Pep's teams play so you're going to have to get used to it.
Knew it was Marvin as soon as it was posted.
We've won 4 in a row, conceding 1 goal, the team has never looked more defensively sound and in control under Guardiola - must be time for a discussion on how the team looks bad and major changes are needed.
Exclude the Everton game, where Bravo had a howler which has cost him his place in the team, we've conceded 5 goals in our last 11 games.
The midfield is suffocating chances, we concede fewer shots on goal than anyone else, and the defence is showing definite signs of progress.
We've won 4 in a row, conceding 1 goal, the team has never looked more defensively sound and in control under Guardiola - must be time for a discussion on how the team looks bad and major changes are needed.
Exclude the Everton game, where Bravo had a howler which has cost him his place in the team, we've conceded 5 goals in our last 11 games.
The midfield is suffocating chances, we concede fewer shots on goal than anyone else, and the defence is showing definite signs of progress.
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