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cyberblue

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when we won the league in 1968 all the players plus sub manager & coach were English ,same as when we won the Eufa cup final in 1970, when we won the League cup in 1970 again everyone was English except Arthur Mann who came north of the border
 
SPIDERBOY said:
Don't think it is mate,Bobby Kennedy was Scottish,all the rest were english though.
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Don't think Bobby got a medal & certainly wasn't in the photo of the champions, even if he was it a great achievement having only British players
 
The teams that won the FA Cup (69) and the ECWC / League Cup (70) were all English as were management etc.
West Ham are the only team to have won the FA Cup with an all English team (in 1975) since City's 69 victory - a feat very highly unlikely to be repeated again.
 
cyberblue said:
....when we won the League cup in 1970 again everyone was English except Arthur Mann who came north of the border
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'Arthur had the same fear of flying as Dennis Bergkampf and therefore didn't feature in our European exploits at that time' He was killed in an industrial accident in 1999

A little time for proper training isn’t too much to ask, is it? A life could depend on it!’
You might have heard of Arthur Mann. He was a well known and respected footballer in the 1970s and 1980s, enjoying success with clubs like Hearts, Manchester City and Notts County, Mansfield and Shrewsbury. He also managed Boston and was assistant manager of West Brom.

But in February 1999, he died. At the time, he was driving a fork-lift truck in a factory in Birmingham. His wife, Sandra, had no idea what his work involved. She’d wave him off every morning with a ‘See you tonight – take care’: only that night, he didn’t come home. ‘I was on a training course that day’, she explains. ‘I’m a physio assistant and we were learning about exercise regimes when someone came in and told me to ring work. At first I thought I’d done something wrong, but it was obviously much more serious than that. “Ring home straight away”, they told me, and my heart sank. I knew it was Arthur. ‘My daughter, Georgina, answered the phone. She was just screaming and screaming – she couldn’t say anything. “What’s happened? Is it your dad?” Yes, it was. “Is he hurt?” No answer. I asked: “Has he died?” She said “Yes”. ‘I just couldn’t believe it. “They’re saying my husband’s died!”, I said to the woman on reception. My mouth went dry. I needed a glass of water. They brought me one, but I couldn’t drink it – couldn’t even pick up the glass. I went totally numb. I just couldn’t function at all.’

So how did such a tragic accident happen? Arthur had been using a fork-lift truck to load a container outside the factory where he worked when a lorry came down the road towards him. He reversed across the road, away from the container, to let the lorry pass. The truck’s forks were still raised and, as he reached the opposite kerb, the vehicle overturned. Arthur was crushed beneath it."

‘Following changes to the law, in most cases, lift trucks should have seat belts fitted. Drivers should be trained to wear them from the beginning and supervised to make sure they are worn afterwards. ‘If there’s one lesson to be learnt from this tragedy, it’s that we should never underestimate the value of training. The benefits far outweigh the costs.'

very sad
 
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George Hannah said:
'Arthur had the same fear of flying as Dennis Bergkampf and therefore didn't feature in our European exploits at that time' He was killed in an industrial accident in 1999

A little time for proper training isn’t too much to ask, is it? A life could depend on it!’
You might have heard of Arthur Mann. He was a well known and respected footballer in the 1970s and 1980s, enjoying success with clubs like Hearts, Manchester City and Notts County, Mansfield and Shrewsbury. He also managed Boston and was assistant manager of West Brom.

But in February 1999, he died. At the time, he was driving a fork-lift truck in a factory in Birmingham. His wife, Sandra, had no idea what his work involved. She’d wave him off every morning with a ‘See you tonight – take care’: only that night, he didn’t come home. ‘I was on a training course that day’, she explains. ‘I’m a physio assistant and we were learning about exercise regimes when someone came in and told me to ring work. At first I thought I’d done something wrong, but it was obviously much more serious than that. “Ring home straight away”, they told me, and my heart sank. I knew it was Arthur. ‘My daughter, Georgina, answered the phone. She was just screaming and screaming – she couldn’t say anything. “What’s happened? Is it your dad?” Yes, it was. “Is he hurt?” No answer. I asked: “Has he died?” She said “Yes”. ‘I just couldn’t believe it. “They’re saying my husband’s died!”, I said to the woman on reception. My mouth went dry. I needed a glass of water. They brought me one, but I couldn’t drink it – couldn’t even pick up the glass. I went totally numb. I just couldn’t function at all.’

So how did such a tragic accident happen? Arthur had been using a fork-lift truck to load a container outside the factory where he worked when a lorry came down the road towards him. He reversed across the road, away from the container, to let the lorry pass. The truck’s forks were still raised and, as he reached the opposite kerb, the vehicle overturned. Arthur was crushed beneath it."

‘Following changes to the law, in most cases, lift trucks should have seat belts fitted. Drivers should be trained to wear them from the beginning and supervised to make sure they are worn afterwards. ‘If there’s one lesson to be learnt from this tragedy, it’s that we should never underestimate the value of training. The benefits far outweigh the costs.'

very sad
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Yet another example of why people who endlessly moan about our "health and safety culture" are fucking idiots.
 
George Hannah said:
'Arthur had the same fear of flying as Dennis Bergkampf and therefore didn't feature in our European exploits at that time' He was killed in an industrial accident in 1999

A little time for proper training isn’t too much to ask, is it? A life could depend on it!’
You might have heard of Arthur Mann. He was a well known and respected footballer in the 1970s and 1980s, enjoying success with clubs like Hearts, Manchester City and Notts County, Mansfield and Shrewsbury. He also managed Boston and was assistant manager of West Brom.

But in February 1999, he died. At the time, he was driving a fork-lift truck in a factory in Birmingham. His wife, Sandra, had no idea what his work involved. She’d wave him off every morning with a ‘See you tonight – take care’: only that night, he didn’t come home. ‘I was on a training course that day’, she explains. ‘I’m a physio assistant and we were learning about exercise regimes when someone came in and told me to ring work. At first I thought I’d done something wrong, but it was obviously much more serious than that. “Ring home straight away”, they told me, and my heart sank. I knew it was Arthur. ‘My daughter, Georgina, answered the phone. She was just screaming and screaming – she couldn’t say anything. “What’s happened? Is it your dad?” Yes, it was. “Is he hurt?” No answer. I asked: “Has he died?” She said “Yes”. ‘I just couldn’t believe it. “They’re saying my husband’s died!”, I said to the woman on reception. My mouth went dry. I needed a glass of water. They brought me one, but I couldn’t drink it – couldn’t even pick up the glass. I went totally numb. I just couldn’t function at all.’

So how did such a tragic accident happen? Arthur had been using a fork-lift truck to load a container outside the factory where he worked when a lorry came down the road towards him. He reversed across the road, away from the container, to let the lorry pass. The truck’s forks were still raised and, as he reached the opposite kerb, the vehicle overturned. Arthur was crushed beneath it."

‘Following changes to the law, in most cases, lift trucks should have seat belts fitted. Drivers should be trained to wear them from the beginning and supervised to make sure they are worn afterwards. ‘If there’s one lesson to be learnt from this tragedy, it’s that we should never underestimate the value of training. The benefits far outweigh the costs.'

very sad
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Thanks for that GH. I knew it was a fork-lift accident but have never heard that in depth story. I thought Arthur was a great player. I called him the 'Flying fullback'.
Also remember a clip off Granada Reports where it showed Arthurs legs buckle under him as he approached an aircraft out on the tarmac.
 
Remember Arthur making his debut at Maine rd, funny that the actual referee stated after the game that it was the best debut he had witnessed from any player !
 
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