Skashion said:Withholding a passport is not against Human Rights. Making a person stateless is. Also, these people should not be made stateless, they should be imprisoned.TGR said:But if they are British and you withold their passport when they return to GB you are infringing their human rights.
The world is mad.
CTID1988 said:mcmanus said:BlueBearBoots said:Atrocious!!
But do the journalists stop going to war zones and reporting how it is or do they carry on risking their lives? Very brave guys
They've got more balls than Wimbledon.
Fair few quid for doing it too
Bluemanc100 said:Skashion said:Withholding a passport is not against Human Rights. Making a person stateless is. Also, these people should not be made stateless, they should be imprisoned.TGR said:But if they are British and you withold their passport when they return to GB you are infringing their human rights.
The world is mad.
Take one of the outer isles of Scotland (assuming a No vote) and declare it as a nation..... send the fucker there....
Like Castaway without the parole or the winners cheque at the end
Stupid suggestion maybe but It pisses me off that we are powerless to act because of rights infringements
I'm a big believer in human rights and I think it's sad that so many people see human rights as a bad thing. However, even those who don't like human rights should see why it's absolutely necessary to ensure someone isn't stateless, especially in matters of international terrorism where terrorists may flit across borders with countries unwilling to deal with them and piles of jurisdictional issues on top of that. The idea that someone must always be a citizen of somewhere means there will always be someone you can appeal to to ensure they are brought to justice. If you made someone stateless, not only does that cause problems of and in itself (if someone is thrown out of their own country do you really think they are less likely to commit terrorism?) but it means every country can pass the buck in difficult situations and makes it more likely that stateless people will not answer for their crimes at all. Like having a lender of last resort, ensuring someone always has a state is a necessary guarantee in the pursuit of international justice.Bluemanc100 said:Stupid suggestion maybe but It pisses me off that we are powerless to act because of rights infringements
Skashion said:We don't have a choice, unless the Iraqi authorities catch them first and do it for us. We can't simply ship off our citizens to another country and say here, deal with them, as they're less obligated to deal with our citizens than we are.Bigg Bigg Blue said:Skashion said:Withholding a passport is not against Human Rights. Making a person stateless is. Also, these people should not be made stateless, they should be imprisoned.
Quite right, just not in this country.
mancunial said:We are at war,somebody please tell Cameron
We don't if they stay there. We do if they come back.Bigg Bigg Blue said:Skashion said:We don't have a choice, unless the Iraqi authorities catch them first and do it for us. We can't simply ship off our citizens to another country and say here, deal with them, as they're less obligated to deal with our citizens than we are.Bigg Bigg Blue said:Quite right, just not in this country.
They made the choice to go over there and fight so fuck em, let them stay there, why should we have to look after them?
You must have some ideas surely??ancoats said:how can such a small army of terrorist hide today with the technology we have to hand
i can't walk around ancoats/Manchester/england without 100s of cameras CCTV on me
even the big brother is watching from outer space and can pin point you on the loo
so why can't they find the terrorist ??????