Islamic State kills Another US hostage

[Ducado]

how can such a small army of terrorist hide today with the technology we have to hand
i can't walk around ancoats/Manchester/england without 100s of cameras CCTV on me
even the big brother is watching from outer space and can pin point you on the loo

so why can't they find the terrorist ??????

There is no problem finding them, they are ruling a big chunk of Iraq and Syria, but military force is not going to solve this one it will help but ultimately there will have to be a political solution

 

[Balti]

nuke em

 

[Skashion]

how can such a small army of terrorist hide today with the technology we have to hand
i can't walk around ancoats/Manchester/england without 100s of cameras CCTV on me
even the big brother is watching from outer space and can pin point you on the loo

so why can't they find the terrorist ??????

There is no problem finding them, they are ruling a big chunk of Iraq and Syria, but military force is not going to solve this one it will help but ultimately there will have to be a political solution

ISIS have to be destroyed, there can be no negotiation with those who will commit wanton genocide, but I don't think the United States and Britain being involved more than they are, is appropriate. I think we've got it right for a change, airstrikes, aid-dropped aid, and arm the Kurds if you insist on arming someone. Nothing else though, no boots on ground, and no arming of Shia forces.

As for the political solution, of course, the problem repeatedly in the Middle East is the never-ceasing failure to address the politics which lead to desperation and thence extremism.

 

[Ducado]

how can such a small army of terrorist hide today with the technology we have to hand
i can't walk around ancoats/Manchester/england without 100s of cameras CCTV on me
even the big brother is watching from outer space and can pin point you on the loo

so why can't they find the terrorist ??????

There is no problem finding them, they are ruling a big chunk of Iraq and Syria, but military force is not going to solve this one it will help but ultimately there will have to be a political solution

ISIS have to be destroyed, there can be no negotiation with those who will commit wanton genocide, but I don't think the United States and Britain being involved more than they are, is appropriate. I think we've got it right for a change, airstrikes, aid-dropped aid, and arm the Kurds if you insist on arming someone. Nothing else though, no boots on ground, and no arming of Shia forces.

As for the political solution, of course, the problem repeatedly in the Middle East is the never-ceasing failure to address the politics which lead to desperation and thence extremism.

The solution is to bring the situation back to how the the Americans left it, not perfect but it was getting there, everyone was warned that this was going to happen

 

[Ste1969]

There is some sick bastards in this world... i hope to fuck the US goes all out to find these twats and destroy them.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

how can such a small army of terrorist hide today with the technology we have to hand
i can't walk around ancoats/Manchester/england without 100s of cameras CCTV on me
even the big brother is watching from outer space and can pin point you on the loo

so why can't they find the terrorist ??????

You must have some ideas surely??

So what do you think Drone
Keep it concise and in less than a thousand words if possible
I have heard you speak many many times but not in any great depth ?
Rip it out pal were all ears.

I have the right to post as many or as little words as I want in each thread. I don't generally come on here to get fully entrenched in big discussions although I may jump in now and again. All I will say is that the whole IS situation baffles me, and I believe our troops may be involved in this soon enough.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Use special forces to kill any Brits involved out there.

 

[Skashion]

The solution is to bring the situation back to how the the Americans left it, not perfect but it was getting there, everyone was warned that this was going to happen

Their failures are the cause of this mess. Their constitutional failures in creating a one-size-fits-all democracy in a country which isn't suitable for it, is what caused this mess. You talk about Maliki and his exclusion of Sunnis but what led to Maliki? Iraq's political system, established, by *drum roll*, the Americans, which neglected to protect the power of the Sunnis to check Maliki and protect Sunni interests. It took a few short years for it to collapse, years marred by sectarian violence with thousands dying every year. The Americans remaining in Iraq wasn't any kind of solution. The Americans staying longer would simply have delayed what we're now seeing, it wouldn't have prevented it.

The solution has to be a general scaling down of Sunni/Shia tensions, with Iran and Saudi Arabia acting as guarantors in being more politically amenable across the region as a whole - Sunnis being included in the policies of Shia regimes and vice versa, There is a window here. Saudi Arabia might finally be scared into rationality by fear of ISIS. Iran is leaning towards more moderate policies, has already gotten rid of Maliki and is more open to both Saudi Arabia and the United States than it's been at any point in decades. The political role of the United States should be limited to not being belligerent towards Iran and encouraging Saudi Arabia in attempting to reconcile with Iran.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Stupid suggestion maybe but It pisses me off that we are powerless to act because of rights infringements

I'm a big believer in human rights and I think it's sad that so many people see human rights as a bad thing. However, even those who don't like human rights should see why it's absolutely necessary to ensure someone isn't stateless, especially in matters of international terrorism where terrorists may flit across borders with countries unwilling to deal with them and piles of jurisdictional issues on top of that. The idea that someone must always be a citizen of somewhere means there will always be someone you can appeal to to ensure they are brought to justice. If you made someone stateless, not only does that cause problems of and in itself (if someone is thrown out of their own country do you really think they are less likely to commit terrorism?) but it means every country can pass the buck in difficult situations and makes it more likely that stateless people will not answer for their crimes at all. Like having a lender of last resort, ensuring someone always has a state is a necessary guarantee in the pursuit of international justice.

I would be the first to demand my own rights... your answer makes perfect sense to me. I just feel frustration that we are becoming victims in this country because of a lack of preparedness to deal with racial issues. I cannot explain as eloquently as you perhaps but the fact that people are petrified of dealing with straightforward issues when race is involved breed contempt from all sides, a refusal to deal with these simple issues causes civil minded people to become frustrated because a lack of action but there is an opposite reaction from those seeking to promote radical ideals because they know they can get away with it...

Its a downward spiral. I just hope that we can slow down the rate of division because we could very easily end up like other countries with civil unrest kicking off

 

[marco]

sick fuks chopped his head off pushed him over and placed his head on his back, i really don't think were doing enough out there now, US intelligence must know where pockets of them are so they should bring back the napalm they used in Vietnam and torch the fuckers, burn them like ants with a blowtorch