Islamic State kills Another US hostage

[BlueHammer85]

The IRA, and even Adolf, were quite reasonable compared to these nutters. For example, the IRA 'only' wanted a United Ireland. They did not want us all to become Catholics, change our names to O'Something, and fly the Irish tricolour over Downing Street. Even Hitler would have been contented with eastern Europe.

There chopping innocent American people's heads off , killing woman and children and forcing people to join them in there holy cause.

And we still have people saying ... Negotiation is the only answer.

ISIS do not want to negotiate ... They are Jihadists !!!

Main Entry: ji·had
1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty ; also : a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline 2 : a crusade for a principle or belief

Exactly what negotiation deals do you offer to people currently murdering others for having different beliefs ??

 

[aguero93:20]

The IRA, and even Adolf, were quite reasonable compared to these nutters. For example, the IRA 'only' wanted a United Ireland. They did not want us all to become Catholics, change our names to O'Something, and fly the Irish tricolour over Downing Street. Even Hitler would have been contented with eastern Europe.

There chopping innocent American people's heads off , killing woman and children and forcing people to join them in there holy cause.

And we still have people saying ... Negotiation is the only answer.

ISIS do not want to negotiate ... They are Jihadists !!!

Main Entry: ji·had
1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty ; also : a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline 2 : a crusade for a principle or belief

Exactly what negotiation deals do you offer to people currently murdering others for having different beliefs ??

Actually the original point was about ransoming hostages back from IS. You've conveniently missed that part out, was that because it didn't fit your little diatribe or because you think it's preferable to leave peacekeepers, aid workers, journalists and humanitarian doctors behind to be beheaded rather than hand over some cash?

 

[CTID1988]

You think IS will negotiate around a table with America ? perhaps with some Tea and Bourbons ?

We thought the same about the IRA - google them if you're unsure as to who they were.
As did the apartheid regimes in South Africa about the ANC - I think you'll find they are running the show now.
And countless other examples in recent geopolitical history.
Lasting peace comes through negotiation and mutual compromise.
That may well not go down well with the gung-ho armchair generals on here, but nevertheless it is the case.

You should also look up Hitler and Nazi Party , in 1938 when there strolling through country's at will, you would still have sat there and said ...'' Let's not take any military action and let's just negotiate''

Godwins Law strikes again!

 

[Cheesy]

The IRA, and even Adolf, were quite reasonable compared to these nutters. For example, the IRA 'only' wanted a United Ireland. They did not want us all to become Catholics, change our names to O'Something, and fly the Irish tricolour over Downing Street. Even Hitler would have been contented with eastern Europe.

There chopping innocent American people's heads off , killing woman and children and forcing people to join them in there holy cause.

And we still have people saying ... Negotiation is the only answer.

ISIS do not want to negotiate ... They are Jihadists !!!

Main Entry: ji·had
1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty ; also : a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline 2 : a crusade for a principle or belief

Exactly what negotiation deals do you offer to people currently murdering others for having different beliefs ??

Actually the original point was about ransoming hostages back from IS. You've conveniently missed that part out, was that because it didn't fit your little diatribe or because you think it's preferable to leave peacekeepers, aid workers, journalists and humanitarian doctors behind to be beheaded rather than hand over some cash?

Putting aside for on minute the argument that paying ransoms encourages more hostage taking (as this could be argued one way or the other), where do you think the millions paid in ransom fees goes to?

 

[aguero93:20]

There chopping innocent American people's heads off , killing woman and children and forcing people to join them in there holy cause.

And we still have people saying ... Negotiation is the only answer.

ISIS do not want to negotiate ... They are Jihadists !!!

Main Entry: ji·had
1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty ; also : a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline 2 : a crusade for a principle or belief

Exactly what negotiation deals do you offer to people currently murdering others for having different beliefs ??

Actually the original point was about ransoming hostages back from IS. You've conveniently missed that part out, was that because it didn't fit your little diatribe or because you think it's preferable to leave peacekeepers, aid workers, journalists and humanitarian doctors behind to be beheaded rather than hand over some cash?

Putting aside for on minute the argument that paying ransoms encourages more hostage taking (as this could be argued one way or the other), where do you think the millions paid in ransom fees goes to?

American, Russian, British, Chinese and French pockets to buy weapons. All 5 countries need to take a long hard fucking look at themselves tbh. But seeing as human life is priceless, I have no problem with paying ransoms.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The IRA, and even Adolf, were quite reasonable compared to these nutters. For example, the IRA 'only' wanted a United Ireland. They did not want us all to become Catholics, change our names to O'Something, and fly the Irish tricolour over Downing Street. Even Hitler would have been contented with eastern Europe.

There chopping innocent American people's heads off , killing woman and children and forcing people to join them in there holy cause.

And we still have people saying ... Negotiation is the only answer.

ISIS do not want to negotiate ... They are Jihadists !!!

Main Entry: ji·had
1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty ; also : a personal struggle in devotion to Islam especially involving spiritual discipline 2 : a crusade for a principle or belief

Exactly what negotiation deals do you offer to people currently murdering others for having different beliefs ??

Actually the original point was about ransoming hostages back from IS. You've conveniently missed that part out, was that because it didn't fit your little diatribe or because you think it's preferable to leave peacekeepers, aid workers, journalists and humanitarian doctors behind to be beheaded rather than hand over some cash?

I don't think giving cash to these people will benefit us in the long run... We give them $2,5,10 million .. Whatever amount. Will only help them recruit more people and buy more weapons and they will keep asking for these demands time and time again knowing that all they got to do is grab a American or European, put a knife to his head and ask for millions of dollars. Sorry but you can't keep doing that.

 

[Cheesy]

Actually the original point was about ransoming hostages back from IS. You've conveniently missed that part out, was that because it didn't fit your little diatribe or because you think it's preferable to leave peacekeepers, aid workers, journalists and humanitarian doctors behind to be beheaded rather than hand over some cash?

Putting aside for on minute the argument that paying ransoms encourages more hostage taking (as this could be argued one way or the other), where do you think the millions paid in ransom fees goes to?

American, Russian, British, Chinese and French pockets to buy weapons. All 5 countries need to take a long hard fucking look at themselves tbh. But seeing as human life is priceless, I have no problem with paying ransoms.

So it goes towards buying arms thereby ensuring that many more innocent people are going to be killed.

As difficult as it is, you have to weigh up which course of action is going to cause more damage.

 

[CTID1988]

For the right price these guys could buy some pretty nasty shit, which is why we just cant give them money

 

[bluemanc]

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ISIS financial backer, Nabil al-Awadi was the director of a muslim 'faith' school in Birmingham.
Bet Birmingham Council offices were busy today.

 

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

The Americans were always going to lose their heads, the Briton probably too because he's a former soldier, the others that were released for ransom (non uk/us) were done so to cause this debate in our democratic society. Even if US put up ransom money they would still take they're heads, don't be silly and think this is just as simple as that. They are playing our media, our freedoms against us