Israel Supporting Al-Qaeda...

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  1. nobody can eat fifty eggs

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    A bit hypocritical of them, they accuse Hamas of being a terrorist organisation whilst they are aiding Al-Qaeda terrorists fighting in Syria:

    <a class="postlink" href="http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/04/04/wall-street-journal-israel-caught-red-handed-aiding-al-qaeda-in-syria/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/04/04/w ... -in-syria/</a>


    It seems like Israel really are the puppet masters of the terrorists in the middle east, it's becoming more and more evident now.
     
  2. oakiecokie

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    Wall Street Journal: Israel Caught Red-handed Aiding al-Qaeda in Syria
    APRIL 4, 2015 BY 21WIRE LEAVE A COMMENT
    21st Century Wire says…

    What US and European media have been slow to figure out (or ignore), is how Israel is up to its neck in fueling the long dirty war next door in Syria.

    Let’s be clear – once again Israel has been caught red-handed providing aid and comfort to Islamic militant terrorists in Syria, as reported by the Wall Street Journal (see full report below). Understand that this flies in the face of all of Benjamin ‘Bibi’ Netanyahu and the US Republican Party’s lyrical proclamations and hollow platitudes about how Israel is ‘leading the fight against terror’ in the region.

    This is not the first time that we’ve reported on Israel’s direct intervention in Syria on behalf of al Qaeda, al Nusra and ISIS. Previous reports in February 2015, and in January 2015, in December 2014, and also in October 2014, all clearly demonstrate a pattern of Israel providing various levels of support to the different western and GCC-backed terrorist groups attempting to break-up the nation of Syria and overthrow Bashar al Assad’s government in Damascus.

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    BIBI AND AL NUSRA: Netanyahu visits a wounded Islamic terrorist fighter receiving medical care in Israel (Image: Information Clearing House).

    Last fall, the Times of Israel reported:
    “A Free Syrian Army commander, arrested last month by the Islamist militia Al-Nusra Front, told his captors he collaborated with Israel in return for medical and military support, in a video released this week.
    In a video uploaded to YouTube Monday … Sharif As-Safouri, the commander of the Free Syrian Army’s Al-Haramein Battalion, admitted to having entered Israel five times to meet with Israeli officers who later provided him with Soviet anti-tank weapons and light arms. Safouri was abducted by the al-Qaeda-affiliated Al-Nusra Front in the Quneitra area, near the Israeli border, on July 22.
    “The [opposition] factions would receive support and send the injured in [to Israel] on condition that the Israeli fence area is secured. No person was allowed to come near the fence without prior coordination with Israel authorities,” Safouri said in the video.”
    Notice also how all of the so-called ‘Islamic Jihad’ terrorists groups operating in and out of Syria are completely focused on opposing President Bashar al Assad in Damascus – but have never once mentioned the plight of the Palestinian or raised a hand in the direction of the Jewish State of Israel. This proves conclusively that the US-Tel-Aviv-Riyadh Axis are absolutely in control of these terror cut-out groups.

    The evidence speaks for itself, even though Israel and the US continue to play dumb…

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    Netanyahu gives a pep talk to Islamic terrorists resting in Israel, before sending them back into the fight in Syria.

    Asa Winstanley
    Middle East Monitor

    An under-noticed news report last week confirmed previously-held suspicions and strong implications that Israeli troops are aiding the Nusra Front, al-Qaeda’s official Syrian affiliate.

    Speaking to Israeli occupation troops last week, a Wall Street Journal reporter on the ground in Mount Bental (part of the occupied Golan Heights) found that Israeli troops receive wounded al-Qaeda fighters, treat them in Israeli hospitals and send them back to continue fighting against the government in Syria.
    The Nusra Front in August overran the Qunaitra crossing, the checkpoint between the Israeli-occupied and Syrian-controlled sectors of the Golan Heights. Israeli invaded that region of south-west Syria in 1967 and has illegally occupied most of the Golan Heights ever since.
    As I pointed out in a previous column, the reports of UN peacekeeping forces since Nusra took over the checkpoint were highly suggestive of Israeli contacts and even military aid to the al-Qaeda rebels. But this Wall Street Journal report has confirmed the fact.
    “We don’t ask who they are, we don’t do any screening,” the unnamed Israeli military official told the paper of the hospital treatment of al-Qaeda fighters. “Once the treatment is done, we take them back to the border [sic - ceasefire line] and they go on their way [in Syria],” he said.
    An unnamed military official also said there is an “understanding” between Israeli forces and al-Qaeda fighters there and that “there is a familiarity of the [al-Qaeda] forces on the ground”.
    Popular conspiracy theories have it that al-Qaeda and the “Islamic State” (also known as ISIS or ISIL) are Israeli- and/or US-intelligence creations. While there’s no evidence for that, it’s certainly true that the US-UK invasion of Iraq in 2003, and its consciously sectarian occupation regime of the country thereafter, created the conditions in which al-Qaeda in Iraq (later known as ISIS) was formed and thrived. Veteran journalist Patrick Cockburn demonstrates this most convincingly in his essential new book The Rise of Islamic State, which I have previously lauded here.
    And now it seems that Israel is in a direct alliance with al-Qaeda in Syria. This is a tactical alliance, meant purely to bleed the country and prolong the civil war.
    Read the quotes from Israeli officials in recent months about the Nusra Front and you will see a strange sort of soft-peddling of the group, casting them as a kind of “moderate al-Qaeda” if you will.
    “Nusra is a unique version of al-Qaeda,” retired Brigadier General Michael Herzog told the Wall Street Journal. “They manage to cooperate with non-Islamist and non-jihadi organizations in one coalition.” Herzog is a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP, the think tank of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the première Israel lobby group in the US) and former chief of staff for Israel’s defence minister. The Nusra Front “are totally focused on the war in Syria and aren’t focused on us,” he claimed. “But when Hezbollah and Iran and others are pushing south, they are very much focused on us.”
    Hizballah and Iran, allies of the Bashar al-Assad regime, are aiding the government in Syria and fighting on the ground alongside Syrian army troops against al-Qaeda, the “Islamic State” and other Sunni rebel groups.
    Even before Nusra took over the Qunairtra checkpoint in August, reports suggested Israel seemed on rather friendly terms with the al-Qaeda affiliate.
    In June, army spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lerner told Foreign Policy that the Israeli government has provided medical assistance to more than 1,000 Syrians over the past fourteen months. “We give medical aid to people who are in dire need,” he said in a telephone interview with the magazine, echoing the statement made last week to the Wall Street Journal. “We don’t do any vetting or check where they are from or which group they are fighting for, or whether they are civilians.”
    Ehud Yaari, an Israeli fellow at WINEP, admitted that Israeli assistance has benefited fighters: “The wounded are both fighters and civilians but there are not too many civilians left because of the fighting raging there … Close to 900 Syrians have been treated in Israel.”
    Foreign Policy reports that, even earlier than June 2014, in March 2013: “Some 400 armed opposition fighters, backed by artillery fire from three tanks, seized a Syrian military outpost atop a hill at Tal al-Garbi, planting four black flags and raising concern that extremist groups are moving into the zone.
    “More than two weeks later, opposition fighters captured two other strategically important hilltop military outposts in Tal al-Jabiya and Tal al-Sharqi.
    “‘In the afternoon of 24 April, two members of the armed opposition displayed the severed head of a presumed Syrian armed forces officer as they passed’ a UN outpost, according to the [UN] report. By the end of April [2013], UN observers ‘detected the flying of black flags believed to be associated with militant groups scattered throughout the central and southern part of the area of separation, including three Syrian armed forces positions captured by the armed members of the opposition.’”
    So Israeli aid to al-Qaeda in Syria may have been ongoing for as long as nearly two years now. But what is sure is that Israeli aid to al-Qaeda in Syria has now been confirmed.
    An associate editor with The Electronic Intifada, Asa Winstanley is an investigative journalist who lives in London.
     
  3. Damocles

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    This isn't new news, we knew about this in October.

    <a class="postlink" href="https://news.vice.com/article/new-evidence-suggests-israel-is-helping-syrian-rebels-in-the-golan-heights" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://news.vice.com/article/new-evide ... an-heights</a>

    You'll also notice that at no point did they help Al-Qaeda, but instead treated the wounds of Syrian rebels near their borders and sent them back to their homes. These rebels might be an affiliate of al-Qaeda, nobody is really sure. But they are definitely not al-Qaeda.

    So basically the title of this thread is wrong.
     
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    This thread will not end well.
     
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    Governments are what they are aren't they?
    Israel are no different and we shouldn't be holding them up to higher standards.
     
  9. urmston

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    Yes.

    If it wasn't for the Israelis pulling strings the middle east would be like a vast version of Switzerland or the home counties, full of happy, tolerant, peaceful, freedom loving people all going about their business cheerfully, celebrating diversity, legalising gay marriage and generally all getting on with each other just fine.
     
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    So this is all based on the "confession" of a rebel commander captured by his enemies who, surprise, surprise, implicates Israel. It's well known that the real puppet masters of the terrorists in that area are Iran, who are propping up Assad and arming Hezbollah and Hamas.

    Yet again, your witless ability to believe anything you read without applying a modicum of thought to what might be behind it shows you up for the complete plank you are. Al Nusra are Sunni whereas the Iranian-backed ISIS and its allied groups are Shia. Israel sees Iran as its main enemy therefore it makes tactical sense to back a Sunni group on its borders (assuming that they are providing any backing beyond medical help) that opposes that axis. It's really not difficult to figure out.

    My enemy's enemy is my friend and all that? The truth is that you just have a visceral hatred for Israel, without understanding any of the history or background.
     

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