Israel Supporting Al-Qaeda...

Serious question..

Is "Israel supporting Al-Queda" any different from the UK/USA supporting Saddam Hussein in the 80's?
When we sold him the WMD that he happily used against the Kurds, with our tacit approval (until years later when we decided it was wrong - nothing to Do with wanting his oil of course)

Or the UK supporting America using chemical weapons in Vietnam?
Or the UK/USA developing nuclear weapons at the same time as denying them to Iran or any other countries we don't like?

The point is, ALL govts act hypocritically. Twas ever thus.

I'm no friend of Israel, but we shouldn't single her out. That's rank hypocrisy given our own history.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Serious question..

Is "Israel supporting Al-Queda" any different from the UK/USA supporting Saddam Hussein in the 80's?
When we sold him the WMD that he happily used against the Kurds, with our tacit approval (until years later when we decided it was wrong - nothing to Do with wanting his oil of course)

Or the UK supporting America using chemical weapons in Vietnam?
Or the UK/USA developing nuclear weapons at the same time as denying them to Iran or any other countries we don't like?

The point is, ALL govts act hypocritically. Twas ever thus.

I'm no friend of Israel, but we shouldn't single her out. That's rank hypocrisy given our own history.

If they were you would have a valid point but they are not supporting them
 
Ducado said:
Kazzydeyna said:
Serious question..

Is "Israel supporting Al-Queda" any different from the UK/USA supporting Saddam Hussein in the 80's?
When we sold him the WMD that he happily used against the Kurds, with our tacit approval (until years later when we decided it was wrong - nothing to Do with wanting his oil of course)

Or the UK supporting America using chemical weapons in Vietnam?
Or the UK/USA developing nuclear weapons at the same time as denying them to Iran or any other countries we don't like?

The point is, ALL govts act hypocritically. Twas ever thus.

I'm no friend of Israel, but we shouldn't single her out. That's rank hypocrisy given our own history.

If they were you would have a valid point but they are not supporting them
!
 
US and Israel up to their eyes in mischief in the Middle East.
McCain : here is John McCain photographed in friendly discussion with the Syrian anti-Assad rebels in May 2013. It’s from a Daily Telegraph piece sub-headed ‘John McCain slipped into Syria to meet with rebel leaders and listen to their calls for US airstrikes against the Assad regime and its Hizbollah allies’.
The young gentleman arrowed there is Mr Al-Baghdadi…the leader of ISIS, “the largest, wealthiest, most powerful terrorist enclave in history”. After the meeting, McCain strongly criticised Barack Obama for not engaging in Syria. He also recorded the meeting on Twitter:
“…Important visit with brave fighters in Syria who are risking their lives for freedom and need our help”
 
Moriati said:
US and Israel up to their eyes in mischief in the Middle East.
McCain : here is John McCain photographed in friendly discussion with the Syrian anti-Assad rebels in May 2013. It’s from a Daily Telegraph piece sub-headed ‘John McCain slipped into Syria to meet with rebel leaders and listen to their calls for US airstrikes against the Assad regime and its Hizbollah allies’.
The young gentleman arrowed there is Mr Al-Baghdadi…the leader of ISIS, “the largest, wealthiest, most powerful terrorist enclave in history”. After the meeting, McCain strongly criticised Barack Obama for not engaging in Syria. He also recorded the meeting on Twitter:
“…Important visit with brave fighters in Syria who are risking their lives for freedom and need our help”

Where is the picture?
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Serious question..

Is "Israel supporting Al-Queda" any different from the UK/USA supporting Saddam Hussein in the 80's?
When we sold him the WMD that he happily used against the Kurds, with our tacit approval (until years later when we decided it was wrong - nothing to Do with wanting his oil of course)

Or the UK supporting America using chemical weapons in Vietnam?
Or the UK/USA developing nuclear weapons at the same time as denying them to Iran or any other countries we don't like?

The point is, ALL govts act hypocritically. Twas ever thus.

I'm no friend of Israel, but we shouldn't single her out. That's rank hypocrisy given our own history.
If you read the link provided by the OP, the author refers to a number of articles saying that Israel has helped treat injured members of the FSA. They may also have provided some support to Al-Haramein which is an element of the FSA not affiliated to Al Qaeda. The author, Asa Winstanley, who writes for Electronic Intifada and other pro Palestinian publications, then spuriously interprets this as Israel supporting Al Qaeda on the basis that the FSA and Al Nusra are both fighting the Syrian government in spite of the fact they've also been fighting each other. It's a fucking complicated situation but there's no credible evidence that Israel is providing any assistance to any Al Qaeda affiliate.
 
west didsblue said:
Kazzydeyna said:
Serious question..

Is "Israel supporting Al-Queda" any different from the UK/USA supporting Saddam Hussein in the 80's?
When we sold him the WMD that he happily used against the Kurds, with our tacit approval (until years later when we decided it was wrong - nothing to Do with wanting his oil of course)

Or the UK supporting America using chemical weapons in Vietnam?
Or the UK/USA developing nuclear weapons at the same time as denying them to Iran or any other countries we don't like?

The point is, ALL govts act hypocritically. Twas ever thus.

I'm no friend of Israel, but we shouldn't single her out. That's rank hypocrisy given our own history.
If you read the link provided by the OP, the author refers to a number of articles saying that Israel has helped treat injured members of the FSA. They may also have provided some support to Al-Haramein which is an element of the FSA not affiliated to Al Qaeda. The author, Asa Winstanley, who writes for Electronic Intifada and other pro Palestinian publications, then spuriously interprets this as Israel supporting Al Qaeda on the basis that the FSA and Al Nusra are both fighting the Syrian government in spite of the fact they've also been fighting each other. It's a fucking complicated situation but there's no credible evidence that Israel is providing any assistance to any Al Qaeda affiliate.


If you read the article two posts down from that from Vice, it tells how the UN physically witnessed members of the IDF helping them across the border, leaving weapons behind when moving out of certain areas and in other cases handing over unmarked boxes to people suspected to be their members. Depends on your definition of credible, but there's absolutely solid evidence to suggest that the IDF is providing support to al Nusra who are an affiliate of al-Qaeda.
 
Ducado said:
Moriati said:
US and Israel up to their eyes in mischief in the Middle East.
McCain : here is John McCain photographed in friendly discussion with the Syrian anti-Assad rebels in May 2013. It’s from a Daily Telegraph piece sub-headed ‘John McCain slipped into Syria to meet with rebel leaders and listen to their calls for US airstrikes against the Assad regime and its Hizbollah allies’.
The young gentleman arrowed there is Mr Al-Baghdadi…the leader of ISIS, “the largest, wealthiest, most powerful terrorist enclave in history”. After the meeting, McCain strongly criticised Barack Obama for not engaging in Syria. He also recorded the meeting on Twitter:
“…Important visit with brave fighters in Syria who are risking their lives for freedom and need our help”

Where is the picture?

mccain1.png


Whole article seems to be up here:

<a class="postlink" href="https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/09/12/isis-black-ops-john-mccain-and-the-mounting-evidence-of-us-identity-manipulation-in-the-middle-east/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/09/12 ... ddle-east/</a>

It's actually a VERY interesting read and rational enough.
 

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