It's Christmas today in Czech republic

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Her indoors is watching TV at the moment (the usual Czech fairy tale type stuff)

At 3 30 we're off to the cemetery to light candles on her families graves

Then to her mother's for dinner at 5, and after dinner we open the presents
 
Pigeonho said:
Mrs P was telling me that in Holland they have Christmas on the 11/12 due to Black Peter? Anyone shed any light on it?

They celebrate Saint Nicholas here too on the 6th.

The most popular of the Advent holidays was—and still is—St. Nicholas Day. It is the only one of the old Czech Advent holidays still celebrated today. It is a special time when children receive sweets and small gifts. They used to be apples, nuts and sweets, while now they are chocolate, toy cars and other small presents. St. Nicholas Day also reminids people that Baby Jesus will soon be here.

Angels lower St. Nicholas, or Svaty Mikuláš,, with a basket of apples, nuts, and candies, down from heaven on a heavy golden cord. On December 5th, the eve of St. Nicholas Day, three figures—kindly St. Nicholas who gives gifts to children, a Devil who comes to take bad children away, and an Angel who pleads on their behalf—form a procession marking the beginning of the Christmas season. The streets are filled with devils rattling chains, St. Nicholases with white cotton beards, long robes and bishops' staffs, and angels with paper wings on their way to visit small children in their homes.

Traditionally, St. Nicholas quizzed children on the prayer-book and the Bible. Today, however, the questions are mostly about the previous year's behavior. The angel writes a record for each child in a large book and the children sing or say a poem to the saint. The devil rattles his chains, threatening to carry bad children off, but the angel, with a gold star on her forehead and dressed in a white gown, protects the children.

Good children receive stockings filled with tangerines, nuts, chocolates, and small gifts. It is said that bad children get old potatoes or coal in theirs. Parents and other relatives also give a St. Nicholas gift, which may be hidden so children must hunt to find it. After the children's treats, St. Nicholas shares a toast with the parents.
In Prague there is a carnival with prizes for the best masks.
 
Pigeonho said:
Mrs P was telling me that in Holland they have Christmas on the 11/12 due to Black Peter? Anyone shed any light on it?

Lol - the "zwarte petes" are the equivalent of little elves assisting St Nicolas in dishing-out the clogs full of sweets for the kids.

I worked over there for a few years and the 1st year at the equivalent of our visit to Santa's grotto the kids crapped themselves when these little blokes dressed-up with black stockings on their heads came out of nowhere!

And it's the 5th not the 11th.
 
It's amazing the differences in cultures allthough a common theme of December prevails which is strange concidering Christ was born in Feb or march. It's almost as if something that pre dated Christianity was in place beforehand and the Christians like the Borg on star trek assimilated the festivals for there own purposes.......oh, hold on!
 
brass neck said:
It's amazing the differences in cultures allthough a common theme of December prevails which is strange concidering Christ was born in Feb or march. It's almost as if something that pre dated Christianity was in place beforehand and the Christians like the Borg on star trek assimilated the festivals for there own purposes.......oh, hold on!

That is exactly what happened! In order to gain a foothold all the old pagan celebrations where converted to Christian Celebrations, the major Christian celebrations come at important times of the year especially for agrarian societies, Christmas being a mid winter celebration, a break from the hard winter months, a time to replenish (hence all the feasting) Easter a celebration of the return of Spring and Summer (life reborn)

Christmas was not really celebrated so much (or as much) in days gone by the Victorians reinvented it, hence we have the commercial gorge fest that we have today
 

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