He was bought at 23 for a world record transfer...are you saying you want all of our transfers to be £70, £80m and above?
Or would it make 100x more sense to have bought him at 21 for 1/10th of the cost when it was already painstakingly clear he was going to go on to be world class, and he was already perfroming well enough to be in the TOTY?
We will get bent over by Levy if we try to sign any Spurs players. I think we might have to look elsewhere.
The cost of their new stadium has spiralled out of control apparently mainly through brexit, estimated now at a cost of £800 million - double the original forecast.
Levy is a tight twat but he's also a businessman- they won't sell the jewells in the crown Ali or Kane but I'd say anybody else could be bought, they are strong in the FB areas ,I'd say Walker is nailed on if we really are in for him.
So to come to the conclusion the
n on this, as i pointed out to you, 23/24 is approximately the best age for us to sign players.
You are now saying that it’s the cost that is the issue not the quality of player. Don't worry about the cost Domalino..... We have the cash and FFP won’t be an issue.
I just don't get why you would rather spend loads of 50m's on players that might not make it and take the gamble on kids aged 18/19, rather than spend 80m for the players that we know will do the required job at a high level, just a few years later who are 23/24 more mature and fully developed physically.
I know what i'd rather do.
Another quick example which is City based: Our best players over the last few years all signed at age 23/24 - Silva, Nasri, Zab, Kompany, Aguero, De Bruyne....
Agreed. Just ask Juve and how they did it with Pogba.He was bought at 23 for a world record transfer...are you saying you want all of our transfers to be £70, £80m and above?
Or would it make 100x more sense to have bought him at 21 for 1/10th of the cost when it was already painstakingly clear he was going to go on to be world class, and he was already perfroming well enough to be in the TOTY?
No! It's not the best time at all. And I'm not suggesting spending £50m on teenagers either, you're the only one who's suggested that.
Are you unhappy with Gabriel Jesus? Because under your plan we wouldn't buy him for 5 years and by that time he'd be at Real Madrid or Barcelona for 3 years and be unavailable full stop. No amount of money would get him here.
That's why you can't wait, because if your attitude is that no player should be bought until they are 24, you'll never end up with the best, they'll already be sewn up and off the market.
This whole conversation started because you seem appalled at the idea of signing another wonderkid amongst some mid-20's players which is a completely ludicrous stance to take.
Reading this back and forth between you and Domalino you are both actually making valid points, really the ideal strategy is to buy the wonderkids (around 19) whenever you can and when that talent is obvious so they are cheaper (Jesus, Ousmane Dembele (so pissed we didn't get him)) etc, these kida have to be proven to some degree though.Domalino. I'm not against you or your opinion. I'm simply saying that 23/24, in my view, would be the age range I would prefer we focused on. I have explained my reasons to you and I think you understand why I feel this way.
Your argument though I do find is all very black and white. To say, am I unhappy with Gabriel Jesus’ signing is just silly isn’t it. Of course I want us to sign players of other ages as well. Everyone is different in their development. However in general clubs tend to have a strategy don’t they and I was pointing out to you that I’d rather we pay more for older players than less money on younger ones who might not reach the desired level.
Sorry to chip in here guys but you are both right. Its about a mix isn't it. We need vast experience and hopefully that will come from targets such as Sanchez and Bonucchi. We need experience with other targets such as Walker/Rose, Weigl, Fabinho, Bertrand and we need potential with targets such as Tielmans, Mbappe. Pricing needs to reflect potential, yes but balanced by experience or lack thereof. Jesus was a good price for great potential. Just not sure about a player such as Mbappe if the figures of £80m+ are to be believed when there is not much experience. Just some musingsDomalino. I'm not against you or your opinion. I'm simply saying that 23/24, in my view, would be the age range I would prefer we focused on. I have explained my reasons to you and I think you understand why I feel this way.
Your argument though I do find is all very black and white. To say, am I unhappy with Gabriel Jesus’ signing is just silly isn’t it. Of course I want us to sign players of other ages as well. Everyone is different in their development. However in general clubs tend to have a strategy don’t they and I was pointing out to you that I’d rather we pay more for older players than less money on younger ones who might not reach the desired level.
Domalino. I'm not against you or your opinion. I'm simply saying that 23/24, in my view, would be the age range I would prefer we focused on. I have explained my reasons to you and I think you understand why I feel this way.
Your argument though I do find is all very black and white. To say, am I unhappy with Gabriel Jesus’ signing is just silly isn’t it. Of course I want us to sign players of other ages as well. Everyone is different in their development. However in general clubs tend to have a strategy don’t they and I was pointing out to you that I’d rather we pay more for older players than less money on younger ones who might not reach the desired level.
So you wouldn't be unhappy with signing Tielemans then, a 19 year old amongst a bunch of late twenties players like Walker, 27, Sanchez, 28, and Mendy, 23? Because that was the only point I made all along, I never said everyone we sign should be under 21, only that we've had great success with signing some young players, and that it's the managers preference so is likely to happen again.
We can’t keep buying 18/19 year olds for millions based on potential.
This is why I want Sanchez. I know he is old at 28 but 3 years we would get out of him at a top top level. Goals and assists.
So any transfer news? Or just handbags?
Fixed.you unhappy with Gabriel Jesus? Because under your plan we wouldn't buy him for 5 years and by that time he'd be at Real Madrid or Barcelona for 3 years and be signing for the rags every time they dropped points.
If we're going to get 2 fullbacks, Dani Alves could actually be a brilliant move.
He's not the player he once was, but outside of Messi, no one else was more important to Pep's Barca than Alves, and a lot of their problems these days have come from not replacing him.
if we got a young player like Bellerin or Maffeo - or a left back, learning from Alves would be the best thing that could possibly happen to them if they want to do well for Pep.
Having said that though, it comes from Duncan Castles who has linked us with about 6 right backs in one article. The most scatter gun approach possible.
He's two years older than Maicon was when he signed for us........