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[2001bluesky]

I don't think Henrichs is the answer for us, He is talented and has immense potential, but if we sign him we are basically telling Maffeo he isn't good enough. We need a Right Back who is already well established.

 

[ADegenerate]

Dortmund have just surpassed us on Zagadou's signing, so I don't think it's that easy.

Nah, he wouldn't come and he shouldn't. Coming here now would be too much of a risk to his development. Losing out on dan-axel doesn't surprise me at all. Would you sign for city? I wouldn't without any first team guarantees.

 

[domalino]

I don't think Henrichs is the answer for us, He is talented and has immense potential, but if we sign him we are basically telling Maffeo he isn't good enough. We need a Right Back who is already well established.

They've just offered Jesus Navas a new contract....they already have told Maffeo he's got no future here.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

They've just offered Jesus Navas a new contract....they already have told Maffeo he's got no future here.

Pretty much the long and short of it.

 

[Akiva]

I mean, I'm not sure how offering Navas a one year contract closes off any future with City to 19 year old Pablo Maffeo, but ok.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I mean, I'm not sure how offering Navas a one year contract closes off any future with City to 19 year old Pablo Maffeo, but ok.

I guess time will tell.

 

[Bruun]

They've just offered Jesus Navas a new contract....they already have told Maffeo he's got no future here.

What if they want to see him for a season in La Liga with Girona? Before putting all the eggs in the basket on Maffeo.

 

[domalino]

I mean, I'm not sure how offering Navas a one year contract closes off any future with City to 19 year old Pablo Maffeo, but ok.

Pep in January said in a press conference that the only reason he couldn't get thrown into the first team was because he didn't have expereince playing in front of proper crowds in high stakes games, unlike the youth players Pep had from Barcelona who played in the Spanish 3rd division.

So Maffeo goes off and gets (more) experience playing in high stakes games in a promotion race, does really well, and the response from Guardiola and co. is to sign Jesus Navas as our back up RB next year.

If the club isn't saying Maffeo's got no future here, then I imagine his agent soon will be because he's done exactly what was asked and they've blocked him off again.

What if they want to see him for a season in La Liga with Girona? Before putting all the eggs in the basket on Maffeo.

Why are we the only team in world football that needs kids to have 5 loans in the very top divisions in European football before they get a chance?

Tom Davies didn't need a loan, Marcus Rashford didn't need a loan, Alex Iwobi didn't need a loan, Trent Alexander-Arnold didn't need a loan, Josh Onoma and Harry Winks didn't need loans.

Maffeo has had two successful loans, and now he apparently needs a third.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Pep in January said in a press conference that the only reason he couldn't get thrown into the first team was because he didn't have expereince playing in front of proper crowds in high stakes games, unlike the youth players Pep had from Barcelona who played in the Spanish 3rd division. So Maffeo goes off and gets (more) experience playing in high stakes games in a promotion race, does really well, and the response from Guardiola and co. is to sign Jesus Navas as our back up RB next year.

If the club isn't saying Maffeo's got no future here, then I imagine his agent soon will be because he's done exactly what was asked and they've blocked him off again.

Why are we the only team in world football that needs kids to have 5 loans in the very top divisions in European football before they get a chance?

Tom Davies didn't need a loan, Marcus Rashford didn't need a loan, Alex Iwobi didn't need a loan, Trent Alexander-Arnold didn't need a loan, Josh Onoma and Harry Winks didn't need loans.

Maffeo has had two successful loans, and now he apparently needs a third.

Completely 100% agree and it gets more frustrating every year.

I'd like to see the academy prospects (and for me Maffeo has been ready for well over a year) brought in to push the established veterans through bringing some fresh hunger, fight and a desire to make names for themselves. It stops the older guys getting complacent and stagnating.

But nope, we'll probably just extend the contract of someone who has been borderline useless for the last three years in his preferred position. Sends a great message.

 

[Andrew___K]

Nah, he wouldn't come and he shouldn't. Coming here now would be too much of a risk to his development. Losing out on dan-axel doesn't surprise me at all. Would you sign for city? I wouldn't without any first team guarantees.

Yep, Zinchenko's case is another example. Instead of training under Tuchel and getting gametime in Bundesliga, he rots in PSV's reserves. Guess he regrets now as he was promised first team opportunities before signing. Such things affect badly the club's image as a good place for youngsters.
Besides, the English B-team system is much worse than in Spain and can't guarantee seamless transition to a senior football. If the talented player (say, Odegaard) signs for Madrid, he can rely on:
- practice in reserve teams of different levels
- loan to Eredivisie
- loan to Bundesliga
And they choose the destination very carefully, I must say.
We, on the other hand, send M.Garcia to Alaves for unknown reasons. Probably expecting him to bench the team's captain Garcia and rising star M.Llorente. The lack of proper planning is obvious, the issue with our loaning system needs to be fixed somehow.