It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[Chevelle]

Far from identical to Kane.Truth is we probably need somebody to leave, if we think we are getting Kane, Bernardo is the player that wants to go a plays in a position that that we are stacked in. So we take the best deal we can. If this is it then this is it.
Comparing to other players in different clubs and situations is pointless.

But then everyone will complain about us constantly being fleeced.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Lose Bernardo and Sane for Torres and Grealish. I get it’s hard to stop players leaving if they want to go but I think we have downgraded and wonder why 2 match winners who had big impact in the bigger games became unhappy??

Good point. You would think they would be happy to stay with one of the top teams in the world, continue to win trophies whilst being extremely well paid.
It would make you wonder what is in the mind of Sane, Bernardo and to a lesser extent Eric Garcia.

 

[decmancity]

Lose Bernardo and Sane for Torres and Grealish. I get it’s hard to stop players leaving if they want to go but I think we have downgraded and wonder why 2 match winners who had big impact in the bigger games became unhappy??

Sane played like the world owed him and then one of the biggest clubs in the world came knocking, he felt he probably had to play for Bayern to play for Germany and expand his marketability.

Bernardo just fancies a change. He's won nearly everything domestically for us and now wants a bit of sun apparently, can't knock that decision.

 

[wolviedinho]

Lose Bernardo and Sane for Torres and Grealish. I get it’s hard to stop players leaving if they want to go but I think we have downgraded and wonder why 2 match winners who had big impact in the bigger games became unhappy??

Bernie was racially abused.

Sane was tapped up by his mum and the jackboots.

Jack is only in the door and Ferran is 21.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Lose Bernardo and Sane for Torres and Grealish. I get it’s hard to stop players leaving if they want to go but I think we have downgraded and wonder why 2 match winners who had big impact in the bigger games became unhappy??

Different stories for me. Sane was not looking quite that clever that year, and had always looked prone to a sulky and petulant attitude breaking through. His family and agents got wind of a move to Bayern, and that was that - foolish on both their parts as it happened. May have looked like City had little choice but we surely could see he wasn't looking as good a prospect for us as he had previously.

Think Grealish will come good big time, but losing Bernie is a mistake due to his work rate and flexibility, also like his character.

But if he did become disillusioned after the social media thing, it's hard for me to argue that England with Brexit-fever, the flag waving, the 'harsh environment', was a place he wanted to be. He will have been pilloried by xenophobic hypocrits, and the atmosphere has barely changed, right up to this summer's final and what happened afterwards.

You want players to be settled, but they are not machines. They are humans with minds of their own, their own stories, complicated, nuanced emotional selves. It can go wrong, and there are definitely times when it's better to let them, even encourage them, to leave.

Many a time I've known I would be better out of my current environment, but there was no way I could make it happen and keep the security I have here, that means I never have to worry about things actually becoming unmanagable. It's hurt.... It's really fucking hurt and harmed me. Been so unhappy and confused and stressed I don't even think it's something I can deal with properly.... if it wasn't as important as it could be - the most secure guarantee of a roof over my head I could ever find, one I can keep despite wonky health that gets in the way of work - and if I hadn't lived through that going wrong and losing less secure homes several times, and seen the outcome, and promised myself a long time ago, that I'd never end up in that place again - if the need to stay hadn't been that properly fundamental to my security, or if other options had been available, then I would have been insane not to have moved. But the other options were not acceptable.

Look at Bernie and Leroy (back then). Their alternative options are incredible. If it's gone wrong, and it can happen to anyone, you are a fool not to let them go. Keeping genuinely unhappy and unsettled people against their will is definitely possible, but it's never the right thing, unless you are a small time ****.

 

[BlueMoonie]

Bernie was racially abused.

Sane was tapped up by his mum and the jackboots.

Jack is only in the door and Ferran is 21.

What? Are you joking i have not seen anything remotely derogatory said about bernardo silvas race, where have you just pulled this bs from?

 

[Legacyfan1986]

Sane played like the world owed him and then one of the biggest clubs in the world came knocking, he felt he probably had to play for Bayern to play for Germany and expand his marketability.

Bernardo just fancies a change. He's won everything domestically for us and now wants a bit of sun apparently, can't knock that decision.

Edited.

 

[wolviedinho]

What? Are you joking i have not seen anything remotely derogatory said about bernardo silvas race, where have you just pulled this bs from?

The media hung the lad out to dry. They all called him a racist.

 

[samuelyeboah]

The media hung the lad out to dry. They all called him a racist.

that's.. not what being racially abused is

 

[wolviedinho]

that's.. not what being racially abused is

Looked like abuse from where I was standing.

Called him a racist and got the FA to ban him and chase him out of England.