It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[chesterbells]

Are you paying for him

Yes

 

[FantasyIreland]

Hopefully the same will happen with Grealish, he has great ability, and is too good to be constantly going to ground, he is far less effective when he does.

He isnt far less effective,becuase that close control,ability to hold the ball up,and 'winning' those freekicks,would be priceless in our set up....a team that struggles to put the ball in the net despite having 80% possession,most of it around the opposition box.

When he goes to ground,99% of the time it is cheap but there is justification for the foul and that almost always ends up in an end product,as opposed to other players who simply fall over and lose possession.

His use of the ball is fantastic,few are better with it.

Anyway,i'll look forward to many of you being surprised when hopefully he arrives :-)

 

[blueparrot]

As said earlier if and when he joins us, his games will become under enormous scrutiny, he buys cheap free kicks, it will not be easy in our team, ref's will quickly latch on to him.

Look at the tactical foul campaign launched on Fern'.

I would also add that Mahrez was a similar player when he first joined us, looking for the foul, Pep changed him over time, last season he was outstanding because he used his ability far more directly and became a far better player.

Hopefully the same will happen with Grealish, he has great ability, and is too good to be constantly going to ground, he is far less effective when he does.

I'm sure if we get him Pep will coach that out of him and he''ll move the ball quicker.

 

[Keeper!]

I agree with the emotion and the general premise but the fact is that it doesn’t alway apply because sometimes, regardless of how prolific a scorer may have been, the goals dry up and never come back.
You don’t have to scrape around for names; Alexis Sanchez, Fernando Torres, Michael Owen and Andy Carroll are easy examples.

True but I don't think Kane is at that level as yet, but another season or two and he could well be another Torres or Owen.

 

[LucahArchie10]

Grealish I want but max 60m

Kane I don't want, not for any price really but the club seem to really want him so what I think is irrelevant.

Good job you don't make the decisions, you won't get top top ayers for less then 75-80m

Southampton will want best part of £45m for Ward Prowse, Tammy Abrahams againg £40-45m then UTD will want around £25-30m for Tuenzebe all out of the Grealish money imo
If we manage to get Jack Grealish for around £75m -80m then its money worth spending
If Sancho goes for £73m + 7m in bonuses then Grealish will be the same maybe £80m in a oner & Villa shake hands
£60m is what City would try & deal with but they also know they won't fuck about with other teams next year all at the table

For what it's worth I recon its done & dusted just waiting for England to finish in the Euros, so another 10 days hopefully things will start to move.
July 25th I recon in City shirt

 

[mosssideblue]

What?

I don't rate Grealish, I don't care if I am the only person on planet earth who does, I don't need anyone to back me up, it's my opinion.

Then when asked who underates him, why did you simply say yourself rather than say other fans and media?

 

[Jokithedruid]

I did say some days ago expect radio silence for two weeks at least. I think everything was done before the window opened bar a sneaky potential last minute deal.

Keep calm, enjoy the euros and then enjoy the transfer announcements in the last week of July, maybe even first week of August. Everything delayed this year.

Roller-coaster of gossip rubbish in the meantime though.

Any idea on why you think we will conduct our business like this?

 

[Keeper!]

Then when asked who underates him, why did you simply say yourself rather than say other fans and media?

Because you asked the question.

Our media has players who are the darling of the moment, Jack Grealish is the present one, he is without doubt a very good player, but at this moment , he is not the second coming.

 

[The Colonel]

Can't help feeling that we have both Grealish and Kane in the bag, can't see us doing much more than that and there is no way that anything would be announced while England are still in the Euro's.

Unsure how this leaves Bernardo and Laporte though given that Aguero and Garcia have already left.

Kane, Grealish and Sterling we’re in bromance threesome hug after the England/Germany game. Henderson was going to join them saw who it was and walked away. Probably nothing but maybe a sign of new camaraderie.
Reading that again it sounds like it could be taken from a cheap, alternative, gay erotic novel.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

Not sure why people obsess about transfer fees.
In audio there is the law of diminishing returns. Beyond a certain point you have to spend 10x more to get a 2x improvement. A cable may cost similar to the amp or speakers but with a cheaper one the system doesn't fulfill its potential.
If Grealish is that missing link then price is not relevant.
The argument should therefore be about the skill set and match up. Not the price. He is either right for us (or could be)or not...

 

[Phoenix900000]

Not sure why people obsess about transfer fees.
In audio there is the law of diminishing returns. Beyond a certain point you have to spend 10x more to get a 2x improvement. A cable may cost similar to the amp or speakers but with a cheaper one the system doesn't fulfill its potential.
If Grealish is that missing link then price is not relevant.
The argument should therefore be about the skill set and match up. Not the price. He is either right for us (or could be)or not...

True I never get that. I always say "It's not my money so let them spend what they want".

 

[Ballymagash Blue]

Kane, Grealish and Sterling we’re in bromance threesome hug after the England/Germany game. Henderson was going to join them saw who it was and walked away. Probably nothing but maybe a sign of new camaraderie.
Reading that again it sounds like it could be taken from a cheap, alternative, gay erotic novel.

I wouldn’t be sure, but my guess is there’s a bit more than that going on in cheap, alternative, gay erotic novels.

 

[City_Sean]

Kane a world class No 10?, you lost me at that point.

Kane is a great goal scorer 100% but the last month has shown he is an ordinary footballer , which has surprised me, and to me the most important factor is physically he looks a lot older than his actual age, that seriously worries me.

He is a world class #10 and has proved it with the sheer amount of assists he's chalked up. Look at his assists for Son etc this season. His weight of pass and vision is brilliant.

He has a KDB esq range of passing.

 

[The Colonel]

I wouldn’t be sure, but my guess is there’s a bit more than that going on in cheap, alternative, gay erotic novels.

Just sets the scene. I’m sure those with experience in such literature could run with that.

 

[citizen_maine]

Not sure why people obsess about transfer fees.
In audio there is the law of diminishing returns. Beyond a certain point you have to spend 10x more to get a 2x improvement. A cable may cost similar to the amp or speakers but with a cheaper one the system doesn't fulfill its potential.
If Grealish is that missing link then price is not relevant.
The argument should therefore be about the skill set and match up. Not the price. He is either right for us (or could be)or not...

As long as your very expensive cable makes the correct connections. if not, your system still doesn't work and you have to spend even more money on another equally expensive cable

 

[Phil1]

Not sure anybody could convince me that a window where we lost Jesus, Bernardo and Laporte to be replaced by Grealish and Kane is a great one.
I really hope that it's just rumour that all three want out.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Not sure anybody could convince me that a window where we lost Jesus, Bernardo and Laporte to be replaced by Grealish and Kane is a great one.
I really hope that it's just rumour that all three want out.

Putting myself in their shoes,all entering prime,i'd probably want out too.

The 3rd choice CB is probably gonna be our biggest issue of the 3.

 

[glyntowen]

amazing how people look back so fondly at some players and so badly at other players

not fussed about Laporte, not the same player than he was pre-injury and seems to lack bottle or fight when faced with a challenge

Losing Bernardo from a couple of seasons ago (pre Mendy incident) hurts as he was outstanding but he has simply not been the same player since, nowhere near as effective for whatever reason (maybe the Manchester weather has him so down as the rumours suggest)

Jesus is an enigma, sometimes he looks brilliant (Madrid in CL) and sometimes you didn't ever know he was on the pitch. Can't usually fault his effort level but just has no impact on some games, I don't think we use him to the best but he doesn't always show enough to be given more chances

To say that the window would be bad if these 3 leave and Kane and Grealish coming in is laughable, two top quality players who give us options - all those crosses when we are chasing games with our 5' 7" strikers in the box, if we get Kane we get an attacker who can actually head the ball

I've never been the biggest Grealish fan, think he falls over too much but he has some serious skills and would help unlock the packed 10 behind the ball we face so often

 

[Phil1]

amazing how people look back so fondly at some players and so badly at other players

not fussed about Laporte, not the same player than he was pre-injury and seems to lack bottle or fight when faced with a challenge

Losing Bernardo from a couple of seasons ago (pre Mendy incident) hurts as he was outstanding but he has simply not been the same player since, nowhere near as effective for whatever reason (maybe the Manchester weather has him so down as the rumours suggest)

Jesus is an enigma, sometimes he looks brilliant (Madrid in CL) and sometimes you didn't ever know he was on the pitch. Can't usually fault his effort level but just has no impact on some games, I don't think we use him to the best but he doesn't always show enough to be given more chances

To say that the window would be bad if these 3 leave and Kane and Grealish coming in is laughable, two top quality players who give us options - all those crosses when we are chasing games with our 5' 7" strikers in the box, if we get Kane we get an attacker who can actually head the ball

I've never been the biggest Grealish fan, think he falls over too much but he has some serious skills and would help unlock the packed 10 behind the ball we face so often

Laughable to you mate, not me,. Also, if you read what I said I didn't mention it being a bad window, I said I wouldn't be convinced it was a great one.

 

[Rammy Blue]

What's playing the game got to do with anything?

You sound like a ex player TV pundit trying to justify there pressence.

I have watched football for 50 plus years, and have an opinion.

Grealish reminds me of another player back in the day who we payed a record fee for and at the time was the darling of football.

Remember Mick Channon? We payed a record fee, England International, and such an exciting signing, he was a nightmare, utter crap, and guess what like Grealish, spent half a game on his arse eating turf and moaning to the ref.

I should have expanded really but was on the way out, so apologies.

It was more about the “Great players don't spend half a game on their arses, the best players avoid challenges, through skill and agility.” comment that I don’t agree with, in fact I’d go as far as to say it’s complete bollocks. That was where my reference about having played the game came into play, as you would know it’s practically impossible to constantly ride challenges, Messi is without a doubt the best there is at it, but he’s not a great player, he’s the GOAT, and shouldn’t have comparisons drawn against him, he is though regularly clobbered too.