Jim Beglin commenting "Emptyhad" on Live TV | City lodge complaint (pg 38)

[Keepingthefaithsince1976]

He's a garbage commentator with zero knowledge of the game. Hope i never have to listen to him again.

 

[LongsightM13]

Out of interest what channel was the **** working for when he said it?

Premier League Productions, the official media channel sold around the world to English language rights holders

 

[Tangled up in blue.]

JBIAT

 

[Coljj]

If he gets the push he'll be

Jim Beg in

They just won't assign him to games at the Etihad anymore and he'll become even more biased against City as a result.

 

[Bill Walker]

Banter from fans of other clubs is one thing (and shouldn't raise too much ire) but this was from a broadcaster who has a responsibility to remain professional while representing whichever channel he is contracted to. This wasn't MUTV it was an international company feeding to multiple countries and so he should be held to account for it.

Yeah thats very true.
I dont know who employs him or contracts him, but lets face it so many these "expert analysis" people are ex Liverpool or ex Manure players. They all have an agenda against City and our domination of the Premier League. I mean look who's second in the prem, if City were still a mid table team Liverpool would be top, last season it was United 2nd.

I see this as a jibe at City, very much meant, Nobody would say Emptyhad instead of Etihad ffs. It's getting the desired result, loads of publicity, and our detractors are loving it.
It's one thing a rag fan saying it, (like we say the swamp) but a professional commentator is unacceptable.

 

[chesterbells]

Yeah thats very true.
I dont know who employs him or contracts him, but lets face it so many these "expert analysis" people are ex Liverpool or ex Manure players. They all have an agenda against City and our domination of the Premier League. I mean look who's second in the prem, if City were still a mid table team Liverpool would be top, last season it was United 2nd.

I see this as a jibe at City, very much meant, Nobody would say Emptyhad instead of Etihad ffs. It's getting the desired result, loads of publicity, and our detractors are loving it.
It's one thing a rag fan saying it, (like we say the swamp) but a professional commentator is unacceptable.

The apology he released on social media the afternoon of the match suggests he realised he was up the creek here. Especially as he was on the Prem’s own in house production broadcast, having reflected on it, I think he does need to walk for this, and quickly (whether he claims he said it ‘intentionally’ or not isn’t really the point).

 

[goldcoastblue]

What gets me is that when he first said it, he knew it was wrong and so corrected himself, although it sounded as though he said it again to me. Either way he should have apologised there and then. He didnt and even when he made reference in the second half, it wasnt an apology, just that he was made aware of his mistake. He is a c*nt of the highest order and knew exactly what he was doing on both occassions.

 

[halfcenturyup]

The apology he released on social media the afternoon of the match suggests he realised he was up the creek here. Especially as he was on the Prem’s own in house production broadcast, having reflected on it, I think he does need to walk for this, and quickly (whether he claims he said it ‘intentionally’ or not isn’t really the point).

This is the point that most are missing. He was representing the PL when he said it, and yes imo it was obviously deliberate. The PL won't be impressed with this either.

He also has form for saying the wrong thing, and having to apologise. Three strikes and he will be out, I reckon.

Expect him to be gushing in blue-tinted praise for the rest of the season.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Standard response to anyone going on about empty seats is “my seat’s always full, is yours?” Tends to end the conversation pretty quickly

I'll try that rather than my usual line of fuck off armchair ****.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

This is different to a journalist saying something like this. The broadcasters presumably sign a contract when bidding for the rights to show the Premier League that involves, amongst other things, using the correct name of the stadium and club. And the obvious reason is that companies have paid huge amounts of money to have their name on the stadium. Imagine the outrage if a commentator accidently called Liverpool "the dippers."

Whether Jim Beglin said it on purpose or it was a slip of the tongue, it's equally damning. If he said it on purpose, it's completely unprofessional. If he said it by accident, it's clear evidence that he calls it that in his free time, because no-one would accidently say something that they don't say in real life. It's like those people who claim to have accidently said something racist. Yeah, I'm sure you did, but you only accidently use racist language in a situation if you regularly use it deliberately.

 

[Pablo123]

This is different to a journalist saying something like this. The broadcasters presumably sign a contract when bidding for the rights to show the Premier League that involves, amongst other things, using the correct name of the stadium and club. And the obvious reason is that companies have paid huge amounts of money to have their name on the stadium. Imagine the outrage if a commentator accidently called Liverpool "the dippers."

Whether Jim Beglin said it on purpose or it was a slip of the tongue, it's equally damning. If he said it on purpose, it's completely unprofessional. If he said it by accident, it's clear evidence that he calls it that in his free time, because no-one would accidently say something that they don't say in real life. It's like those people who claim to have accidently said something racist. Yeah, I'm sure you did, but you only accidently use racist language in a situation if you regularly use it deliberately.

Trevor Sinclair openly called Liverpool “ dippers ” on talkshite and was vilified for it to the extent where he made a grovelling apology

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Trevor Sinclair openly called Liverpool “ dippers ” on talkshite and was vilified for it to the extent where he made a grovelling apology

I mean if Sinclair wasn’t carted for that, there’s no way Beglin will or should be carted for this.

(Nice one Trev!)

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I mean if Sinclair wasn’t carted for that, there’s no way Beglin will or should be carted for this.

(Nice one Trev!)

There's a difference between some chat radio station and the official Premier League commentary though.

 

[christened at st marks]

Proof of media agenda full stop

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

During a cl game when we got banned , whats his name ex arses guy said we can call them sportswashing now cant we

Keown said ‘financial doping’ on air, not ‘sport washing’ fwiw - and it was delivered as a shit joke, rather than a sly dig, although tbf it could have been both.

 

[Pubteam Lomas]

Haven't read the whole thread, but from my experiences his 'slip' will have come about because they call it the 'Emptyhad' off air ALL the time.
They hide behind the 'banter' line when in truth it's their innate jealousy and dislike of the club.

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

I hope he does lose his job, I just cant believe that a professional commentator would accidentally say that.
I can see why City were pissed off by it. His prominence as a broadcaster making such jokes puts the club in a poor light, City are slowly building a very successful brand, they are trying to do it very professionally.
Beglin played right into the hands of our detractors, every other fan will now use the term Emptyhad, cheapening our brand and making the brand the butt of jokes and piss taking.

You only have to look at the twitter extract on here that was being put out as the match was being played. Loads of fans of the Lesser Redshirted Teams having a right old laugh as they were watching hoping for us to lose. They were a fraction of the others who joined in to take the piss once they heard about it. Yesterday just walking the dog l bumped into a rag woman and a male dipper both of whom mentioned it but as plastics who have never been to a match they were were easy meat. Point is they both knew about this small thing without even being big football fans.
Then on here if you mention it, you get smart arsed pipsqeak blues who start going on its not important. It is when it's relentless, every day people having a go at us. So called professionals who just act like gobby fans off the Kop or Stretford End. Talkshite presenters referring to City fans ringing in as bitter blues, l wonder where they got that expression from?
It's all very well being treated as a laughing stock when you've got a Peter Swales in charge but not as part of a campaign against the best team in the land.

 

[give it to gordon]

I mean if Sinclair wasn’t carted for that, there’s no way Beglin will or should be carted for this.

(Nice one Trev!)

Sinclair was using slang name for LFC. Whereas Beglin was using a slang word for City by changing the name of our club sponsor.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Sinclair was using slang name for LFC. Whereas Beglin was using a slang word for City by changing the name of our club sponsor.

I think the principal difference is that Beglin is employed by an organisation with whom City have a contractual relationship that is associated with his professional duties, which gives the club grounds for a complaint that has teeth. I expect what he said will breach some term or warranty in the contract between BT and the PL (and thereby City) especially as it involved (and denigrated) our main sponsor, which I expect is crucial contractually, because I reckon that contract will be framed to protect the commercial interests of each club’s sponsors.

In fact I’d be amazed if it wasn’t a standard term in contracts between clubs and their sponsors that the latter’s commercial interests are protected in any agreement each respective club has with any broadcaster that it has a contractual relationship with. They are handing huge sums over and want to ensure that money enhances, not damages their brand’s reputation.

That will explain the speed and unequivocal nature of the apology and subsequent Tweet. He will have been told to apologise in those terms tout suite, because what he said breached the contract between BT and the PL - and doubtless Beglin’s with BT.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

I think the principal difference is that Beglin is employed by an organisation with whom City have a contractual relationship that is associated with his professional duties, which gives the club grounds for a complaint that has teeth. I expect what he said will breach some term or warranty in the contract between BT and the PL (and thereby City) especially as it involved (and denigrated) our main sponsor, which I expect is crucial contractually, because I reckon that contract will be framed to protect the commercial interests of each club’s sponsors.

In fact I’d be amazed if it wasn’t a standard term in contracts between clubs and their sponsors that the latter’s commercial interests are protected in any agreement each respective club has with any broadcaster that it has a contractual relationship with. They are handing huge sums over and want to ensure that money enhances, not damages their brand’s reputation.

That will explain the speed and unequivocal nature of the apology and subsequent Tweet. He will have been told to apologise in those terms tout suite, because what he said breached the contract between BT and the PL - and doubtless Beglin’s with BT.

Beglin is not employed by BT Sports. He's employed by Premier League Productions who broadcast the game for international audiences. So a lot more people heard it as it wasn't on BT Sports