Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Tim of the Oak]

You mean like they are for Nadri, Bony, Mangala and Yaya?

Spot on mate. De Gea and Neur would go for £30mil plus tomorrow.

 

[rowarta]

Watching Soccer Sunday, Joe would have some fun behind that Liverpool back 4

 

[chaddblue]

Sadly, I think that will prove a tall order for some.

Agree... There will be some who can't wait for Bravo to make his first mistake

 

[awest]

Get him out on loan for a season then flog him.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

and by the same token Hart has had Kompany + 1 whilst Neuer has had Boateng, a player we sold, for both club & country. So Neuer's played with less good centre-backs than Joe has a lot of the time. By a similar token, De Gea has had Chris Smalling in front of him who you claim isn't up to scratch because he plays for England in front of Joe, so in actual fact you trip yourself up in the same post. Either the England CBs are naff and therefore Joe's clean sheet record in the league is artificially inflated compared to De Gea's who does a better job because he plays with those same CBs in the league, or the England CBs are good in which case Joe has an advantage over Neuer who plays with a lead CB who we sold and constantly fucks up himself.

For Bayern, Neuer plays behind a solid midfield and defence. Statistically, Neuer faces far fewer shots than any GK in the BL because Bayern are so dominant - so your comment suggesting he plays behind poor defenders doesn't stack up. Don't make me laugh about De Gea - as though United have carefully selected and organised a bunch of incompetents in front of him. This is Man United we're talking about, not Sheffield United. Joe has no advantage over Neuer. I watch England in tournaments thinking we're good enough to do well, then I watch the defence fall apart at crucial moments every time. Smalling is a good player, but the England defence is not - they get in each other's way. Joe's clean sheet record for England and City is exceptional.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

I'm sorry too Marvin, I really would like Joe to be given a chance to stay and redeem himself under Pep but it's not going to happen. When we all take off our blue tinted specs of biasedness through our natural affinity and endearment towards Joe (we've built up over the last 10 years), then we will all realise that he is not good enough a keeper for pep in the cold light of day. Joe is a good keeper but he has not transpired to become world class that he should of been by this stage of his career unfortunately.

Messi rates him as 'phenomenally good' and Buffon rates him as one of the top three on the planet. Btw - Buffon is, in my view, the world's best - doesn't concede the occasional soft goal that Neuer does.

 

[Phil1]

Messi rates him as 'phenomenally good' and Buffon rates him as one of the top three on the planet. Btw - Buffon is, in my view, the world's best - doesn't concede the occasional soft goal that Neuer does.

You'd have thought they might put a word in for their clubs to sign him wouldn't you. I mean Barca have just lost a keeper and Buffon can't go on forever..

 

[andyhinch]

Messi rates him as 'phenomenally good' and Buffon rates him as one of the top three on the planet. Btw - Buffon is, in my view, the world's best - doesn't concede the occasional soft goal that Neuer does.

Serious question, why arn't clubs queing up for him ?

 

[HarrytheBlue]

All entitled to our opinion. I'm not here to convince you.

All I'll say to you in reply, is that the top brass in this football club agree with me.

I think that's enough said

Joe is not being given the chance to adapt. Mixed messages "Stay and improve, but I'm signing a guy four years older than you for twenty times the fee you were signed for."

 

[St.Pauli support]

Hart has been one of my favourite players over the years despite me being able to see and admit that he has stagnated over last two seasons, and that he still has too many flaws in his game. Fuck.me, it's as though he plays some games with shampoo in his eyes, and he's not Head and Shoulders above the rest like many claim. ; )... Joe has been mostly unchallenged for us and England over the years.Judging by Joe's body language he seems to have developed a cocky "I'm untouchable" type of arrogance, and if Pep has had words with Joe there's only going to be one winner. I wish Joe well wherever he goes but if we're honest he's not as good a keeper as he should be at his age and experience.

Thanks for that balanced view in this weird debate.

I can understand many on here have their blue tinted specs on. It's good to have a huge identification with the club's heroes like Joe. But then again it's really exhaustive when some experts on here are just picking out some parts of the picture while ignoring those they simply don't like so much.

We really would have lost if we end up like this: ;-)



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