Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[blueloon]

I think you are missing a few things here which is maybe Hart does not want to improve on his kicking or do the things Pep wants, that is crucial. He may have better stats and be the best keeper in the world but if he undermines the boss then he has no place at the club. The exact same thing happened at Barcelona with Ibrahimovic who thought he should be playing every match but he wouldn't do what Pep told him to do, made problems and caused friction, Ibrahimovic scored a fair few goals but he still got rid of him.

I think Pep has told him he needs to improve certain things or he is either gone or not going to play, that obviously did not sit well. I think there is a not necessarily bad but an unhealthy element in the clubs core who think they should be playing no matter what. It was the same element who told us every week under Pellegrini that things would improve yet we lost and lost again yet they continue to play every week.

Something IS going on behind the scenes.

Totally agree. Been reading Roy Keane's latest book and it was interesting to hear how his exit from Manchester United was excelerated. He was a huge influence in the changing room, maybe this is the problem for Joe Hart at City. Maybe Pep (or someone in his coaching team) has noticed this and feels that he needs to be moved on along. For me, it will shame if Joe Hart leaves the club, I love his passion and honesty. Maybe there are people at the club don't feel there is a place at the club for individuals like this anymore. All the talk about his lack of technical ability is a smokescreen for me. We will likely hear the real reasons for his exit in his book when he retires...

 

[razman]

Anyone else sick of hearing about Joe Hart.

Thanks for everything Joe but there isn't a place for you in the Managers plans and so be a good lad and get your agent to sort out another club and move on. If you didn't know already, which I think you do, this is the nature of professional sport.

pretty sure this will go on in the press , till we sell / loan him as Pep said anything can happen till August 31 , so you have to bear a little more.

Think it is pretty clear he is gone now , he knows it and today most likely will be his last game . Also pretty understandable that he is trying to see which is the best club for him and Everton( only realistic option, maybe Liverpool) being small time and not closing the deal is hardly his fault.

Everton will try to get the best deal , so will City and so will Hart tying to be at the same wages . As you said this is the nature of professional sport AND the transfer market with everyone trying to get the best deal to suit them - so I expect this nonsense will go on till 31st August.

 

[Centurions]

All the talk about his lack of technical ability is a smokescreen for me.

So you think Joe is technically capable of playing the Pep way then?

 

[Machiavelli]

Bald man picks on Head & Shoulders model.

 

[simon23]

Who would you suggest would be a good #2, understands Peps way and is available at short notice?
I personally think Willy is a lot better than you are making out, but I respect your opinion on him

to be honest I've no idea of a number 2....but I do know caballero even in his basic shot stopping just looks awkward...i appreciate he is trying o do the bit that pep really wants with distribution but in all the other areas he just looks awkward and imho is a disaster waiting to happen

 

[yeah whatever !!]

I can pass it 5 yards also, although I need a longer run up now :)

Fuck me that's a long bathroom, or do you start in the corridor??

 

[mosssideblue]

Fuck me that's a long bathroom, or do you start in the corridor??

Corridor with good muscle technique!

 

[SWP's back]

That @Ric is a shrewd one.

Ric's out of order doing all this just to get ad revenue.

 

[yeah whatever !!]

Corridor with good muscle technique!

Of course... you're a Blue.

 

[mosssideblue]

to be honest I've no idea of a number 2....but I do know caballero even in his basic shot stopping just looks awkward...i appreciate he is trying o do the bit that pep really wants with distribution but in all the other areas he just looks awkward and imho is a disaster waiting to happen

Other than shot stopping, for me you have also described Joe.

opinions eh :)