Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Machiavelli]

Anyone else think Leicester may come in for a loan with Schmeikel going off injured today and needing a hernia operation?

It's possible I suppose. Joe would lose some dosh but could eat pizza again.

 

[Len Rum]

Do you believe the bullshit you type? Whether it's over defensiveness, over sensitiveness or being sycophantic towards Pep understand this:

Giving Joe his dues is not going against Pep or the Club. Some people can see where Pep's coming from and will get over it but are getting fed up of the nonsense being spouted about Harts "level". Cech and Buffon are not keepers known for their footwork or sweeping up at the back, even if they can do a little a bit of it they are nowhere near Neuers level yet they are still definitely top class keepers or they were if you feel like they are getting on a bit. There are different styles of play at some clubs even the elite clubs in Europe(most don't play that way in fact), so there's still a place for excellent keepers who aren't sweeper keepers at the top level.

Peps a grown man he's not bothered if some fans think it would have been better to keep Hart on as number 2 keeper, there's no need to defend him so excessively as I said it's ironic because the way some tell it simply giving Hart due credit(telling it how it is) is what's causing the disruption. He's a great keeper but he's not right for what Pep needs right now he doesn't have the time to teach him that, he needs a keeper that can do it in the present.

The fact is just because he's not right for our NEW system doesn't mean he's not still a top keeper he is champions league level he's proved it on the pitch(everything else said to the contrary is just talk no substance), that's why he's going not because his performances haven't been deemed good enough on the shot stopping. All keepers make mistakes and have lapses in concentration, Joe hasn't been at fault for that many goals in truth we've been lucky to have him more often than not. This low left weakness is being over egged to stupid levels too it might not be his strongest side(all keepers have a strong side) but he's made saves low to his left it's not a case of put it low left and it's a sure fire goal.

Get behind Pep and the Club, I'm doing exactly the same myself, when some make remarks about a player I've seen a lot of over the years that I strongly disagree with and I'll say so as will others who find certain comments to be wide of the mark(it's heated discussion for the most part). The reality most of the arguing isn't about Pep or the club it's about Joe alone most of it, I can't think why anyone would literally turn on Pep or the Club over it whether the decision is right or wrong.

You are right when you say that not being right for our new system doesn't mean he is not a top keeper however weaknesses in distribution, aerial ability , not stopping daisy cutter shots to his left do.

 

[Maldeika]

Anyone else think Leicester may come in for a loan with Schmeikel going off injured today and needing a hernia operation?

No. Because they have Ron-Robert Zieler as second goalkeeper.

 

[ped]

It's not just a case of fan-boys and girls being concerned about Hart's treatment. The episode has caused misgivings to many who value fair dealing rather than winning at all costs. That is the true d

It's not just a case of fan-boys and girls being concerned about Hart's treatment. The episode has caused misgivings to many who value fair dealing rather than winning at all costs. That is the true division on this matter. It mirrors the fact that there were plenty on here 12 months ago who would have been happy to suck Mourinho's dick and plenty who said "no way".

If Joe has shown insubordination in any form, Pep is absolutely right to move him on. If not, there has been a degree of cynicism, not to mention cold and calculated PR.

We don't actually know for sure but the element of doubt has taken some of the shine off early season for me and, I suspect, a few others.

That said this is a mercenary, unforgiving business. If we win the league, Pep will be a hero. If we finish below the rags, he'll get the Bluemoon treatment.

In the meantime, this is an unwelcome and expensive distraction.

it seems city have told joe that he will not loose a penny in wages even if it means paying up to 90% , sounds like fair dealings to me

 

[sir baconface]

it seems city have told joe that he will not loose a penny in wages even if it means paying up to 90% , sounds like fair dealings to me

In purely financial terms, maybe. Even if the motive is just to get him away from the Etihad and out of sight.

 

[hilts]

it seems city have told joe that he will not loose a penny in wages even if it means paying up to 90% , sounds like fair dealings to me

I refuse to believe we will pay 90% of his wages that would be madness, if he won't take a pay cut then keep him at the club, he has been amply paid for his work to date, we owe him nothing

 

[BigOscar]

I refuse to believe we will pay 90% of his wages that would be madness, if he won't take a pay cut then keep him at the club, he has been amply paid for his work to date, we owe him nothing

If we have to subsidise 60k a week to get him out on loan then that's probably worth it if that's what it takes. That's only £3m for the year and having the camera cut to his miserable little face in the crowd ten times every game and having the pundits endlessly pontificating on it every time Bravo is less than perfect would do a lot more than £3m worth of damage. Ideally someone would take him and pay his wages, but if the options are pay some of the money or keep him then it's a no brainer for me. Him being here and not playing would be terrible for our season

 

[MCFC_4Heatons]

Absolutely pathetic people saying Hart has been mistreated. Pep's here to take us to the next level, if he thinks it means a change of keeper so be it. This is elite sport and we're trying to be the best.

By the way clubs not exactly queuing up to take him, so maybe he's not as good as some would have us think... Very good keeper, prone to repeating the same mistakes with questionable distribution.

Pep & City have done nothing wrong here, its sad for Hart but it happens .....

 

[hilts]

If we have to subsidise 60k a week to get him out on loan then that's probably worth it if that's what it takes. That's only £3m for the year and having the camera cut to his miserable little face in the crowd ten times every game and having the pundits endlessly pontificating on it every time Bravo is less than perfect would do a lot more than £3m worth of damage. Ideally someone would take him and pay his wages, but if the options are pay some of the money or keep him then it's a no brainer for me. Him being here and not playing would be terrible for our season

Someone mentioned 90% sod that that's just taking the piss, we would be pretty much giving another club a free player. For such a great keeper amd England's number 1 someone should be willing to pay at least half his wages. Tell him to find a club or train on his own

 

[Metalartin]

You are right when you say that not being right for our new system doesn't mean he is not a top keeper however weaknesses in distribution, aerial ability , not stopping daisy cutter shots to his left do.

Rubbish! :)