Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Machiavelli]

Nope. Seems like some people rate their perception and general knowledge of the game far too highly. Probably some sad sack sulking for the fun I had in the Sterling thread at last years armchair experts' expense. (His post not yours)

I knew you weren't a septic bud. Heads off to the Sterling thread. |:0)

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Torino, pa...haha. England's #1, world class keeper...ends up at Torino.

Says it all really.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I was questioning the same after this debacle. I felt the same about Hart during the 11/12 season but there is no doubt he dropped off after that. I used to be took back by how well he could pick out an accurate long-range pass up-field, then when Pellers came in he started kicking it out of touch every time and certainly no where near no.2 in world football.

Even back in 11/12 or 12/13 when Joe was on world class form rags were exclaiming DeGea was no.2 in the world and still fervently do, even many other football fans and some City fans too. DeGea when he first came, flapped at absolutely everything in-front of him and was terrible. He's obviously come on a lot after taking time to settle in over there but still, he's not as good as Courtois was at Atletico. I don't see the ability one on one ability in DeGea that is probably Joe's greatest strength (has always continently pulled us out the shit over his City career), obviously a big strength of Neuer too. He can be a great shot stopper reaching for shots going into the corner etc. but not any more so than Hart. In recent years Hart has been weak getting caught out with low shots to the corner though. I think he's just not kept up to the high standards he set himself a few years ago.

I agree. He has regressed but I liked him as a player despite his poor concentration at times and poor distribution. The fact that he is going to Torino says it all unless we won't play ball with some clubs.

 

[Metalartin]

Has Celtic not been a loan option? Win the SPL, good chance at the Scottish cup, big home crowd/experience, CL football...

Not a bad shout in theory he'd probably fit in well there too(tempted to say something about Joe's "great character" but I'll leave it), I think the fact that they haven't even been mentioned this late on says it all though they must be happy with what they have for now.

 

[johnmc]

Hart is in that top 10-20 range. Nowhere near Manu Neuer or Gigi Buffon. It gets a little murky after that depending on who you ask, but I think DDG is comfortably third best. Courtois and Cech probably round out the top 5. Then you've just got a bunch of guys who are all very close to one another -- needless to say, Hart has never been near #2 in the world but he's one of the best. A lot of other teams probably saw him as an upgrade but the timing for the move was not good.

Where is Bravo then?

 

[CitizenTID]

I agree. He has regressed but I liked him as a player despite his poor concentration at times and poor distribution. The fact that he is going to Torino says it all unless we won't play ball with some clubs.

I don't see a long-term solution in the prem for Joe unless one of the top 6 part ways with their 'keeper. Top keepers tend to move between CL clubs. Joe should be looking at Napoli, Juve (after Buffon retires), Atletico, PSG, Dortmund et al. Maybe promising Europa league clubs - Valencia, Villarreal, Sevilla. You can see the sort of bracket I mean listing those clubs - he'd be lucky to get #1 at a Juve or Atleti standard but that's where he should be aiming.

 

[CitizenTID]

Not a bad shout in theory he'd probably fit in well there too(tempted to say something about Joe's "great character" but I'll leave it), I think the fact that they haven't even been mentioned this late on says it all though they must be happy with what they have for now.

He could be the difference for them in the CL at getting 3rd spot in the group.

 

[Burtonblue]

If he were prepared to take a wage cut I bet he could have stayed in the Prem.
Guess you can't blame him for putting money ahead of football but that's his choice.

 

[Metalartin]

He could be the difference for them in the CL at getting 3rd spot in the group.

Maybe their budget was spoken for on outfield players by the time Hart became available, lets not forget most of the world expected Hart to stay and fight for his place even if he did lose the No1 spot.

He'll be back(on the world stage not at City I know ;) ) anyway and good luck to him he's too good not to be IMO. I agree a CL club should be a priority, he may not feel like it at the moment but he needs to stay in the limelight or he might end up fading away. I can understand why he would want a move to somewhere like Torino with the recent media "circus" as he termed it himself, kind of tells you he's had enough of the frenzy. A lot of it has been negative and even blue's are trying to make out he's not CL level now, its madness really.

 

[CitizenTID]

Hart is in that top 10-20 range. Nowhere near Manu Neuer or Gigi Buffon. It gets a little murky after that depending on who you ask, but I think DDG is comfortably third best. Courtois and Cech probably round out the top 5. Then you've just got a bunch of guys who are all very close to one another -- needless to say, Hart has never been near #2 in the world but he's one of the best. A lot of other teams probably saw him as an upgrade but the timing for the move was not good.

What makes DeGea #3? I've watched him enough to feel that people over-egg him way too much. Alright you could say unconventional isn't a bad thing but his over-use of his feet to save says something about his confidence in his hands.

If you can explain why you think he's no.3 incase I'm overlooking things? When does he ever come out in a 1 on 1, spreading himself big and save the day like Hart and Neuer?