Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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Yup I heard him say he didn't like interviewing him,pretty poor comment really,considering he always says how privileged he is to be a City reporter,he's in a position more closer than any of us would ever be,and as a fan that he is I understand it,but as he ever thought some of the players might not like him ?
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I thought Mr Cheeseman was fairly even handed and simply relayed rumours he had heard. I didn't interpret those 'rumours' as simple idle gossip, but as a euphemism for inside information. Later in his interview (about City in general) he explains how he has to try to filter people just flying a kite with whacky stories, and those where info is coming from multiple sources - which to my mind, suggested the 'rumours' he had heard were most likely fact. When he says 'the things I'm hearing...', he's basically saying 'I've been told by credible sources inside the club'.

He held back / was diplomatic on what Joe had done when told he was not in the startling XI against Sunderland other than to say 'he made it very clear he was not happy' (paraphrased). It was clear that HE knew, but wasn't prepared to say.
Again, he hinted at Joe being prickly in interviews by saying he didn't really like to interview Joe as he had a tendency to interpret some questions as a dig etc. But he also said he hardly knew Joe and that as far as he could tell, Joe kept out of the limelight in his personal life.

In my opinion, I thought he gave what seemed an honest account of what he knew / heard / thought about Joe and the current situation. it wasn't all negative, but certainly wanted to make it clear that he believed it was more than just pure football matters. Sounded like no axe to grind.

It would be awful if journalists / commentators etc all toed the City party line - we might as well just get all info from the City website in that case. Having privileged access to the club shouldn't prevent him giving an honest opinion, even if it's critical at times.
 
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Think some might be forgetting that we played Pep's Bayern 2 years in a row, and so that's 4 pre-match build-ups Pep had to analyse a large proportion of our squad.

It's no surprise that some of the mainstays of that period have been decided on very quickly, maybe Pep when doing all his prep to beat us, and during those games, saw enough of Hart as an opponent to not rate him.
 
FanchesterCity said:
I thought Mr Cheeseman was fairly even handed and simply relayed rumours he had heard. I didn't interpret those 'rumours' as simple idle gossip, but as a euphemism for inside information. Later in his interview (about City in general) he explains how he has to try to filter people just flying a kite with whacky stories, and those where info is coming from multiple sources - which to my mind, suggested the 'rumours' he had heard were most likely fact. When he says 'the things I'm hearing...', he's basically saying 'I've been told by credible sources inside the club'.

He held back / was diplomatic on what Joe had done when told he was not in the startling XI against Sunderland other than to say 'he made it very clear he was not happy' (paraphrased). It was clear that HE knew, but wasn't prepared to say.
Again, he hinted at Joe being prickly in interviews by saying he didn't really like to interview Joe as he had a tendency to interpret some questions as a dig etc. But he also said he hardly knew Joe and that as far as he could tell, Joe kept out of the limelight in his personal life.

In my opinion, I thought he gave what seemed an honest account of what he knew / heard / thought about Joe and the current situation. it wasn't all negative, but certainly wanted to make it clear that he believed it was more than just pure football matters. Sounded like no axe to grind.

It would be awful if journalists / commentators etc all towed the City party line - we might as well just get all info from the City website in that case. Having privileged access to the club shouldn't prevent him giving an honest opinion, even if it's critical at times.
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Good post, I think we could have handled the situation a lot better.
 
FanchesterCity said:
I thought Mr Cheeseman was fairly even handed and simply relayed rumours he had heard. I didn't interpret those 'rumours' as simple idle gossip, but as a euphemism for inside information. Later in his interview (about City in general) he explains how he has to try to filter people just flying a kite with whacky stories, and those where info is coming from multiple sources - which to my mind, suggested the 'rumours' he had heard were most likely fact. When he says 'the things I'm hearing...', he's basically saying 'I've been told by credible sources inside the club'.

He held back / was diplomatic on what Joe had done when told he was not in the startling XI against Sunderland other than to say 'he made it very clear he was not happy' (paraphrased). It was clear that HE knew, but wasn't prepared to say.
Again, he hinted at Joe being prickly in interviews by saying he didn't really like to interview Joe as he had a tendency to interpret some questions as a dig etc. But he also said he hardly knew Joe and that as far as he could tell, Joe kept out of the limelight in his personal life.

In my opinion, I thought he gave what seemed an honest account of what he knew / heard / thought about Joe and the current situation. it wasn't all negative, but certainly wanted to make it clear that he believed it was more than just pure football matters. Sounded like no axe to grind.

It would be awful if journalists / commentators etc all towed the City party line - we might as well just get all info from the City website in that case. Having privileged access to the club shouldn't prevent him giving an honest opinion, even if it's critical at times.
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Yea,he hardly knows Joe............only been with us 10 years
 
Jonathan Wilson's piece about Silava and De Bruyne in the Guardian today talks a little bit about Joe Hart.

Although Hart’s pass-completion rate last season was just 52.6% – the seventh best figure in the Premier League for a goalkeeper but way short of the 80.8% achieved by Manuel Neuer at Guardiola’s Bayern Munich, the suggestion is that Guardiola and his coaching staff lost faith in Hart after a drill in which he was asked to switch the ball from one foot to the other and then hit a long pass. His passing was reasonable, but he struggled with the technique of moving the ball on to his stronger foot.

Whether Caballero is the solution is another issue. He did manage an 80% pass completion rate against Sunderland on Saturday, although he presented possession to Duncan Watmore with his first clearance and he looked shaky again in his distribution in the 5-0 win away to Steaua Bucharest in the Champions League play-off on Tuesday. Bravo, meanwhile, had the best pass completion of any goalkeeper in Europe last season at 84.3%.

Even after his gaffes at the Euros, many would still argue Hart is a better shot-stopper than Caballero, but for Guardiola that perhaps is only partly the point. He will accept his goalkeeper saving fewer shots if he is able to keep the ball moving, facilitating both the maintenance of possession and the initiation of rapid counterattacks.
 
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