joe hart

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It's simple...he needs dropping to the bench with no immediate return to the team if Pantillimon does a good job.
 
I'm not an apologist for Hart.

But has anyone considered the fact that we had a very mean defence for the last couple of seasons which protected Hart from over exposure.

In one of the end of season DVD he himself more or less says he just sits comfortably behind his defence,and picks the ball up occasionally .

The defence as a whole is not watertight and therefore gives Joe no confidence.

It also gives me no confidence.

We look easy to beat as soon as anyone gets behind us.
 
Fast becoming a liability. Time for Pantilimon to get a run of games. A few poor games then yes get behind him but 10 months of consistent errors and its time for the kick up the arse.
 
Deadlyassasin said:
I'm not an apologist for Hart.

But has anyone considered the fact that we had a very mean defence for the last couple of seasons which protected Hart from over exposure.

In one of the end of season DVD he himself more or less says he just sits comfortably behind his defence,and picks the ball up occasionally .

The defence as a whole is not watertight and therefore gives Joe no confidence.

It also gives me no confidence.

We look easy to beat as soon as anyone gets behind us.
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That could be used as an argument against Hart though. The defence always protected him so he didnt have anything to do so couldn't fuck up.

I don't think Neuer would concede any of the 3 goals.
 
Jumanji said:
Even Sky think he's at fault for EVERY goal.

I thought he was their golden boy...
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The agenda my friend, the agenda:

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Deadlyassasin said:
I'm not an apologist for Hart.

But has anyone considered the fact that we had a very mean defence for the last couple of seasons which protected Hart from over exposure.

In one of the end of season DVD he himself more or less says he just sits comfortably behind his defence,and picks the ball up occasionally .

The defence as a whole is not watertight and therefore gives Joe no confidence.

It also gives me no confidence.

We look easy to beat as soon as anyone gets behind us.
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I take the point that the defence this season may not be as effective as last season (though some may say that this would give a keeper more chance to shine).

However the first goal tonight was not the result of the defence being out of position but was a long range shot that should have been saved.
 
Jumanji said:
Even Sky think he's at fault for EVERY goal.

I thought he was their golden boy...
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Its sky and the media that is harts biggest problem, they build em up to knock em down as they have with every england keeper there has ever been, hart WAS a good keeper before being shot at and shot at by the media/brainwashers for any little mistake, the guys confidence is gone and i will be very surprised if it ever returns, he will carve out a career,but never what it could have been without the england keeper curse, see paul robinson, david seaman, ray clemence etc etc etc
 
Absolutely shocking.. must be over ten times now that hes been beaten at his near post. To name a few: Benzema last season, Ronaldo, Adam Johnson, 2 tonight, RVP last season! Hes just completely lost his head and looks like the Pepe Reina of 2011-2013, under no real pressure for his spot at Liverpool and once his performance level dropped he just couldnt ever get it back. Plus his kicking is an absolute abomination.

Theres a lot of top quality keepers out there that are available. Valdes at the end of the season, Casillas possibly.. but my favourite would be Begovic.

No doubt about it, we need a new keeper to put some pressure on him because he has lost the plot.
 
Time to drop him and if he don't improve bring begovic hell even Cesar (sp) from qpr is better
 
ZZmaestro said:
I still rate him high, yet not world top 10, based on his one on one skills.
His main weakness has always been distance shots : positionning misstakes, half hearted movements, fumbles, and every things...
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Shit, i hate it when reality slaps you in the face. His weaknesses aren't going to get sorted overtime, we defo need competition for him to
get a kick in his ass.
 
He got a hand to the first and second goal. Shocking for a top flight keeper to be beaten at the near post..not once but TWICE.

But what makes me more livid is how he pathetically dove when Muller was trying to control the ball. Not when Muller tried to shoot.

Thus, he gave Muller a free piss-easy tap in.

So so so depressing.
 
I remember when Mancio was vilified for questioning Hart's unorthodox techniques.

I'm starting to think he was right.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
But he's world class.....isn't he?
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No sadly he is not. It is with regret that I agree he needs dropping. It's not only the goals he lets in but he hasn't made a save of note or saved a game for us for some time. Added to this his indecision at corners and his tendency to punch when catching is an option, thereby putting us under more pressure. Time for a change regrettably.
 
He's regressing terribly and it's costing us now. One of his last great games was in a fixture like this last season (Dortmund) and he earned us an undeserved point... now he helps cost us points. God knows what has happened with him, he has just lost the plot completely though.
 
On and on and on it goes. He's been poor for a year. He's arrogant over rated and it's time to drop him. He could of had a blinder tonight and we'd still have lost, but the fact is he didn't, he was at fault for at least two of the goals, as he was on Saturday. I've said it before and I stand by it - Liverpool, Chelsea and Stoke definitely have better keepers than we do and as things stand, even that shithouse who keeps goal for Utd looks better. Moving up to a wholly different level, Bayern's goalkeeper is a completely different class to Joe.

I really want him to be the 'real deal', but I'm afraid it has become clear that he isn't up to it when we are under the cosh.
 
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