John Stones

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shackattack said:
the sale of stones will not mask over the extent of which everton as a club are so distant from the football elite. the infrastructure of the club has to be right first, and there is a lot of work to be done on and off the field. stones and lukaku will leave for certain and we will only have 4 weeks in which to replace them and a few others. progress will not be rapid and over the next few seasons we may see the results or stagnate as is the norm. commercially we have to improve , and can see a few seasons of turmoil
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You're right about the infrastructure needing to be right before real progress can be made. Personally I believe with so many premier league clubs upgrading or moving into new stadiums recently, one of Everton's biggest headaches is Goodison Park, they need to move to a stadium that warrants world class players and corporate tickets if they're thinking of challenging the 'elite' clubs. I also think they need to upgrade their facilities, but I believe Liverpool council are set to invest a few million quid soon into Everton's training ground?
 
shackattack said:
the sale of stones will not mask over the extent of which everton as a club are so distant from the football elite. the infrastructure of the club has to be right first, and there is a lot of work to be done on and off the field. stones and lukaku will leave for certain and we will only have 4 weeks in which to replace them and a few others. progress will not be rapid and over the next few seasons we may see the results or stagnate as is the norm. commercially we have to improve , and can see a few seasons of turmoil
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i think you will do well under koeman. its hard for any club to compete now without a load of money. last season being the exception. I've been very impressed with some of your younger players especially tom davies, looks a fantastic prospect.
 
shackattack said:
the sale of stones will not mask over the extent of which everton as a club are so distant from the football elite. the infrastructure of the club has to be right first, and there is a lot of work to be done on and off the field. stones and lukaku will leave for certain and we will only have 4 weeks in which to replace them and a few others. progress will not be rapid and over the next few seasons we may see the results or stagnate as is the norm. commercially we have to improve , and can see a few seasons of turmoil
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Aww come on shack - everytime I start disliking Everton fans again you pop up and remind me there's still some good ones about!
 
Pablo1 said:
Aww come on shack - everytime I start disliking Everton fans again you pop up and remind me there's still some good ones about!
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I don't think the other Evertonian @efcblue i think?? deserved what he got earlier in the thread, it was uncalled for. What's wrong with a supporter believing they can progress with some decent investment? Or believing his club will hold out for their valuation of Stones?
 
Machiavelli said:
I don't think the other Evertonian @efcblue i think?? deserved what he got earlier in the thread, it was uncalled for. What's wrong with a supporter believing they can progress with some decent investment? Or believing his club will hold out for their valuation of Stones?
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I've no idea what happened earlier, I've not been on most of the day. He can believe what he wants about his club, he just comes across as somebody who takes himself to serious.
 
Machiavelli said:
I don't think the other Evertonian @efcblue i think?? deserved what he got earlier in the thread, it was uncalled for. What's wrong with a supporter believing they can progress with some decent investment? Or believing his club will hold out for their valuation of Stones?
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He is a good poster, I hope he's not been getting stick.

My argument is that EFC have known for 12 months that he wanted out but instead of sorting out a good deal with City and getting a replacement in, they've dragged it out for a few more millions. But what use is millions in the bank when the fans want players on the pitch. They'll either end up pricing him out of a move, in which case they will have an unhappy player, or they'll end up selling in August and having to replace him at the last minute. It does seem now that they are firing off a few bids so perhaps this is coming to a conclusion. I thought it notable that the players they have been linked to are in their 30s. These don't strike me as long terms signings that they have been thinking about for 12 months but an instant response. This is why I think they would have been better off being pro-active
 
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Marvin said:
He is a good poster, I hope he's not been getting stick.

My argument is that EFC have known for 12 months that he wanted out but instead of sorting out a good deal with City and getting a replacement in, they've dragged it out for a few more millions. But what use is millions in the bank when the fans want players on the pitch. They'll either end up pricing him out of a move, in which case they will have an unhappy player, or they'll end up selling in August and having to replace him at the last minute. It does seem now that they are firing off a few bids so perhaps this is coming to a conclusion.
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Yeah, I wasn't referring to what he was saying regarding Stones or Everton's supposed stance on the transfer. I was merely pointing out @efcblue getting a hard time for standing his ground regarding what he thinks the fee for Stones will be, that and believing his club is on the up due to the recent developments at Goodison.
 
shackattack said:
the sale of stones will not mask over the extent of which everton as a club are so distant from the football elite. the infrastructure of the club has to be right first, and there is a lot of work to be done on and off the field. stones and lukaku will leave for certain and we will only have 4 weeks in which to replace them and a few others. progress will not be rapid and over the next few seasons we may see the results or stagnate as is the norm. commercially we have to improve , and can see a few seasons of turmoil
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What are the chances of these new investors funding a new stadium? Surely that has to be the number one priority.
 
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