Jon Snow-wearing a poppy

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I see the snivelling little puss bag is refusing to honour those braver than himself once again by making a point of not wearing a poppy. If there is a more cretinous example of a champagne socialist please list them here.
 
Men and women fought and died so that he has the right to choose not to wear it.

Personally, I choose to wear mine with pride.
 
softlad said:
Excuse my iognorance, but why does he not wear a poppy?
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Heard today he is still at it but here are his previous efforts....


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-415488/Newsreader-Jon-Snow-rails-poppy-fascism.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... scism.html</a>
 
Does Jon Snow state a reason for his refusal to wear a poppy? I suppose it's a personal choice whether he wears one or not, but whatever his choice he should simply make it and keep to it, he may be against war or against what the poppy represents, I don't know, but whatever it is he should keep it to hinmself, it's a personal decision that doesn't require a public explanation.
 
Jon Snow's reply on why he doesn't wear one

The Poppy issue is an interesting one - opinions are much more bitterly divided and assertively put than on any other symbol.

Fiona Bruce is to be allowed to continue to wear a crucifix, or a cross-shaped item of jewellery. I am allowed to wear unspeakably bright ties. But there's a world of difference there that we should be assertive about.

My ties are abstract - I do not believe in wearing anything which represents any kind of statement. You may say my ties, my socks are a statement anyway. But of what? A statement of rebellion? Joy? Absurdity? You see we don't know what the statement is - if indeed there is one - and that is as it should be.

I am begged to wear an Aids Ribbon, a breast cancer ribbon, a Marie Curie flower... You name it, from the Red Cross to the RNIB, they send me stuff to wear to raise awareness, and I don't. And in those terms, and those terms alone, I do not and will not wear a poppy.

Additionally there is a rather unpleasant breed of poppy fascism out there - 'he damned well must wear a poppy!'. Well I do, in my private life, but I am not going to wear it or any other symbol on air.
I respect our armed forces, the sacrifice and the loss, and like others I remember them on Remembrance Sunday. That's the way it is. I won't be wearing a black tie for anyone's death - I don't for my own relatives, so why on earth would I for anyone else's?

When the Queen Mother died, our coverage was not of dark grief but of a happy life remembered.

In the end there really must be more important things in life than whether a news presenter wears symbols on his lapels.
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NQT said:
Jon Snow's reply on why he doesn't wear one

The Poppy issue is an interesting one - opinions are much more bitterly divided and assertively put than on any other symbol.

Fiona Bruce is to be allowed to continue to wear a crucifix, or a cross-shaped item of jewellery. I am allowed to wear unspeakably bright ties. But there's a world of difference there that we should be assertive about.

My ties are abstract - I do not believe in wearing anything which represents any kind of statement. You may say my ties, my socks are a statement anyway. But of what? A statement of rebellion? Joy? Absurdity? You see we don't know what the statement is - if indeed there is one - and that is as it should be.

I am begged to wear an Aids Ribbon, a breast cancer ribbon, a Marie Curie flower... You name it, from the Red Cross to the RNIB, they send me stuff to wear to raise awareness, and I don't. And in those terms, and those terms alone, I do not and will not wear a poppy.

Additionally there is a rather unpleasant breed of poppy fascism out there - 'he damned well must wear a poppy!'. Well I do, in my private life, but I am not going to wear it or any other symbol on air.
I respect our armed forces, the sacrifice and the loss, and like others I remember them on Remembrance Sunday. That's the way it is. I won't be wearing a black tie for anyone's death - I don't for my own relatives, so why on earth would I for anyone else's?

When the Queen Mother died, our coverage was not of dark grief but of a happy life remembered.

In the end there really must be more important things in life than whether a news presenter wears symbols on his lapels.
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You cant really argue with that statement .

Good on him I say for sticking to his principles
 
Well said Jon Snow. I give a donation but never take a poppy because
a) poppies cost money. If I don't take one I am maximising my donation
b) I object to ostentation
c) it annoys right wing facists who seem to think they can demand what I should do or not do.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
Well said Jon Snow. I give a donation but never take a poppy because
a) poppies cost money. If I don't take one I am maximising my donation
b) I object to ostentation
c) it annoys right wing facists who seem to think they can demand what I should do or not do.
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Fair point...but... why right wing fascists? When I was in the forces the Tories were in power the whole time and for obvious reasons I was robustly discouraged from wearing any uniform items or insignia when off duty.

Now Brown and previously Blair never miss a publicity stunt and love their people to wheel broken uniformed young men and women out for public consumption. I felt a real sense of distaste (rightly or wrongly) at the disabled soldiers being paraded on the X factor recently. My missus disagreed strongly citing that it was a good cause. Recognition or exploitation? I suspect that some of those contestants wouldn't give a second thought to wearing a poppy any other time, but would cheerfully don anything if it garunteed public support in their selfish quest.

I applied for a veterans badge this year as a recognition of my relatively peaceful time in the armed forces and with everything that's gone on in recent years, I don't know what to do with it. It's not been out of the box. I feel by wearing it I would be piggy backing on the sacrifices of others.

As for Jon Snow, I admire his reasons for not wearing a poppy, it's two fingers up at the left wing nanny state that insists on telling us how we should feel about everything and anything.
 
GStar said:
I see brook has gone awfully silent in this thread...
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thats because although we all have a view on it non of us are either arguing or agreeing with him enough for him to continue his rant (see anti-semitic bbc thread)

personally, Jon Snow can do what he likes. I would only have an issue if he was banned from wearing it on air
 
Ronnie the Rep said:
GStar said:
I see brook has gone awfully silent in this thread...
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thats because although we all have a view on it non of us are either arguing or agreeing with him enough for him to continue his rant (see anti-semitic bbc thread)

personally, Jon Snow can do what he likes. I would only have an issue if he was banned from wearing it on air
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Exactly. Some interesting points on both sides. Not here for a row but I will defend my right to air my views to the death.
 
When I buy a poppy I wear it for the few days before and during Armistice Day (inc. Remembrance Sunday), not for weeks beforehand. It's getting as long as the build up to Christmas at the moment.
 
guv said:
When I buy a poppy I wear it for the few days before and during Armistice Day (inc. Remembrance Sunday), not for weeks beforehand. It's getting as long as the build up to Christmas at the moment.
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Don't get me started on this one....
 
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