Kalidou Koulibaly

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

Why do the two things have to be mutually exclusive? We could very well fail to attract buyers for our players AND have been set back weeks because of the financial package to take Messi to City. You're literally doing the exact same thing you're accusing me of; making an informed guess. You don't know that we can't attract buyers for our players

I'm not guessing.

Regards the financial package for Messi; that would have been funded by additional sponsorship and if you'd read the Messi thread, taken note of Prestwich Blue or Projectriver, or watched the vlogs on youtube at the time, or even read the accounts of some of the better journalists, you would fully appreciate that the Messi situation had exclusive funding and was in no way distracting from or adverse to any other planned business.

Re the difficulty in selling players, that has no connection whatsoever with the Messi situation. The problem is pretty much down to us being a top club that pays well, so that the players in decline that we need to move on are on higher salaries than the lower level / less successful clubs can generally afford to pay. And thus we get lower fees because the buying clubs need to account for the high wages that they'll struggle to pay.
That hits us even in good years but (as you may have noted) the football industry has just been financially crippled by covid and the consequent and continuing plummeting revenue, which makes it nigh on impossible for us to move players at anything like a decent fee.

You should read up.

 

[itisrising]

I'm not guessing.

Regards the financial package for Messi; that would have been funded by additional sponsorship and if you'd read the Messi thread, taken note of Prestwich Blue or Projectriver, or watched the vlogs on youtube at the time, or even read the accounts of some of the better journalists, you would fully appreciate that the Messi situation had exclusive funding and was in no way distracting from or adverse to any other planned business.

Re the difficulty in selling players, that has no connection whatsoever with the Messi situation. The problem is pretty much down to us being a top club that pays well, so that the players in decline that we need to move on are on higher salaries than the lower level / less successful clubs can generally afford to pay. And thus we get lower fees because the buying clubs need to account for the high wages that they'll struggle to pay.
That hits us even in good years but (as you may have noted) the football industry has just been financially crippled by covid and the consequent and continuing plummeting revenue, which makes it nigh on impossible for us to move players at anything like a decent fee.

You should read up.

In regards to Messi, you have picked and chosen the information you wanted to absorb. On first count, the only journalist reporting the CFG shares was Duncan Castles. Projectriver literally attacked the idea and spoke of how it would open us up to another UEFA investigation. And regardless of whether it was viable, Lionel Messi was pushing for a friendly exit. That much we know for certain. A friendly exit would have involved a substantial transfer fee. The club briefed multiple journalists that they were not going to give up their first team players; indicating that the club was likely preparing a lucrative financial package (100m would be a guess) to Barcelona. That money clearly affects other deals.

You've totally missed my point; I literally argued the two could have nothing to do with eachother. Our inability to sell does not mean the Messi saga didn't affect our transfer planning.

There's no need to try to patronise people with nonsense like 'you should read up'.

 

[Tevez City]

We don't want to speak with Napoli, but we are willing to pay them +70m for their 29 years old CB and help them rebuild their team !

 

[waspish]

We don't want to speak with Napoli, but we are willing to pay them +70m for their 29 years old CB and help them rebuild their team !

Think our bid is around 55m reports say we won’t be upping it.

 

[RayCTID]

€90m (£81m) for a 29 year old defender is taking the piss I can totally understand the club's reluctance in paying that fee.

 

[leo_city]

We don't want to speak with Napoli, but we are willing to pay them +70m for their 29 years old CB and help them rebuild their team !

They're going nowhere under Gattuso and neither is their rebuild of high quality (aside Boga, wouldn't consider Sokratis and the other defender they've lined up that great, Osimhen not some polished product either no matter what money they've paid). It's just getting as much money for players as possible because they realise it could be a slump from here on as CL spot isn't easy anymore. If they don't have CL spot next season given rebuild around them it's big trouble. Rise of Atalanta, Inter getting back, Lazio doing well, even Milan potentially getting back. They would have to move any remaining key players for little money. ADL is not daft and nice to deal with, but you can always tell when a plan is prepared expecting downfall

 

[Parisian]

or DiMarzio could be briefed by ADL to put this out in an attempt to hurry City to close this deal by reaching the figure asked. I would be highly surprised if PSG considered themselves out of this whole saga to get Koulibaly and all of a sudden only now think they can get him

PSG window so far has been offering a new contract to Choupo-Moting, signing Sergio Rico and earlier buying Icardi.

Leonardo has hinted Icardi was our BIG transfer this year (50 M).

We are named for players like Bellerin, El Sharaawy, Guendozi. Hardly world beaters and even less big transfers.

But suddenly, we have to believe we are in for Koulibaly for such an high transfer fee when we aren't even mustering a good enough offer for our most deprived positions in the team.

I guess some people are leaking stuff to get a better offer from City.

I don't think Koulibaly at this price would be a good thing for PSG given our needs but at this point, i would rather this interest be true compared to the shit names being quoted for us recently.

 

[leo_city]

PSG window so far has been offering a new contract to Choupo-Moting, signing Sergio Rico and earlier buying Icardi.

Leonardo has hinted Icardi was our BIG transfer this year (50 M).

We are named for players like Bellerin, El Sharaawy, Guendozi. Hardly world beaters and even less big transfers.

But suddenly, we have to believe we are in for Koulibaly for such an high transfer fee when we aren't even mustering a good enough offer for our most deprived positions in the team.

I guess some people are leaking stuff to get a better offer from City.

I don't think Koulibaly at this price would be a good thing for PSG given our needs but at this point, i would rather this interest be true compared to the shit names being quoted for us recently.

Also I believe, if PSG were really in for Koulibaly they would have taken him by now, given the exit of Thiago Silva. But I saw they let Kouassi go as well, who looks a great talent, not aware of other defensive recruits but the team seems well built for near future at least, despite that. If you get Camavinga as well that would be exceptional.

 

[Paul1970]

Think our bid is around 55m reports say we won’t be upping it.

If that’s the case then we ain’t getting him so we better move on sharpish . We really cannot afford to go into the season without signing another centre back. It’s bad enough going with the same left backs again but to not but another central defender is a massive mistake which I don’t believe we will do .

 

[Parisian]

Also I believe, if PSG were really in for Koulibaly they would have taken him by now, given the exit of Thiago Silva. But I saw they let Kouassi go as well, who looks a great talent, not aware of other defensive recruits but the team seems well built for near future at least, despite that. If you get Camavinga as well that would be exceptional.

They didn't let Kouassi go.

Typical french players are going for the money (first professional contract in France is only 3 years long compared to 5+ years abroad and the french players syndicate is vetoing any attempt to make it on par with our european rivals) and are ready to go abroad before having even signed for their boyhood club.
We showed him a lot of consideration, he is one of the players with the best playing time in his age class and even played against Dortmund in CL but we cannot do anything when his agent is working to sell him abroad and get the better fee.
It happens a lot on our academy because those "agents" (some are actually uber drivers and make the deals by using the licence of true certifed agents) get close to them at a young, go eat with the family, drive them around, etc. They are the ones deciding. And German clubs (Dortmund, Red Bull and lately Bayern) are very aggressive on these profiles.

I guess Leonardo had planned to keep Kouassi while letting TS go. It would have put Kouassi as the number 3 option in CB position with Diallo with the possibility to play also as a 6. He signed for Bayern, a club stacked in every position...

The guy is 17 years old and said he "needed to see something else". Lmao... These guys.

I think Camavinga and Rennes are not giving a shit about PSG either. As a matter of fact, we have made no official approach or bid. He will prolly stay at Rennes this year before leaving abroad next year.