Kalvin Phillips | Joins City on a 6-year deal

[FromPollockToSilva]

I can’t for the life of me believe no one saw the opportunity there. The guy will be massive under Simeone. Danilo from Palmeiras another name I insist people remember, will turn world class at a major club in a couple of years

Funny you've not mentioned him before now...

 

[Deleted member 87819]

It’s a weird world when signing this lad meets with general approval and Declan Rice doesn’t. One of them is top quality already with the potential to be a fixture in our starting eleven and the other is a bang average plodder. I’d be surprised if we sign him.

But haven’t you heard it’s a crime to sign a player that can potentially be as good if not better than Rodri? It can only be around average

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Funny you've not mentioned him before now...

Kamara?? Oh I have, several times. Here’s one

 

[blueparrot]

I don’t think you understand my point. I am saying there are much better and cheaper business opportunities than Phillips. We don’t need to settle for him at all.

Unless we want to for whatever reasons. I think he a good p/l player that can do a good job. If we buy him, and I don't know if we will, it would be for good reason, not because we are settling for him.

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

Kamara?? Oh I have

I meant Danilo, tongue-in-cheek. You keep telling us to remember the name, at this rate it'll be so seared into my brain that I'll utter it on my death bed à la Charles Foster Kane

 

[Mcfc_110]

If Phillips at £30m is a “no brainer”, I have to ask what Boubacar Kamara on a free is. 22 years old, much higher ceiling and he bests Phillips on nearly all stats already. As for the “worked with Bielsa” point, Kamara works with Jorge Sampaoli, who also is a Bielsa disciple and who had Juanma Lillo as his assistant for awhile as well

And this is just one example of a much better deal

I don’t know if you mean to Gus but you often speak in facts and certainties when in reality what you’re stating is you’re opinion which you are fully entitled to. However, you don’t seem to afford others their opinion and are quite quick to jump in to dismiss it. We get you don’t rate Phillips and that’s fine but you also don’t need to comment on everyone that does rate him or has a difference in opinion to yourself. A signing like Phillips is always going to split opinions as countless have before like Ake. Even when you look at Liverpools signings (who I know you’re a fan of recruitment wise) I can remember a lot of people turning their nose up at mane and Robertson when posters here suggested we should be in for them but they’re turned out alright. I personally think all the best squads are built up of a mixture of superstars and smart more conservative signings and the blend of which allows harmony within the squad. It creates a squad where everyone knows their roles and responsibilities but it also gives you hungry players trying to push those in front of them. Phillips might not set the world alight but what he does bring is some steel to the midfield that we would lack without ferna anymore. The jury is out as to whether he has the ability to fully step in (in particular passing under pressure) but we all know City will have done their homework extensively and if they think he’s right for the job then I’m more than happy to trust their judgement.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

I meant Danilo, tongue-in-cheek. You keep telling us to remember the name, at this rate it'll be so seared into my brain that I'll utter it on my death bed à la Charles Foster Kane

Hehehe sorry for my insistence!

 

[DeBlueLou]

He's in the process of changing agent to Stellar this month (Grealish, etc)

Make of that what you will.

Could yet be stoke the fires.

Now that’s hot!

 

[Deleted member 87819]

I personally think all the best squads are built up of a mixture of superstars and smart more conservative signings and the blend of which allows harmony within the squad. It creates a squad where everyone knows their roles and responsibilities but it also gives you hungry players trying to push those in front of them. Phillips might not set the world alight but what he does bring is some steel to the midfield that we would lack without ferna anymore.

I am getting tired of saying over and over that I am not advocating for anything different than this. Like others, I don’t see Phillips as a conservative signing, but rather a mediocre one. “Oh but Ake”, “oh but Walker” just doesn’t cut it for me. I see better opportunities in the market, that’s all. Including for the characteristics you listed

 

[supercity88]

Why would you pay so much more for a player that isn't that much better if he actually is better

The snobbishness of some of our fans regarding other teams players is rag esq

It was tongue-in-cheek mate. Throwing £75m on top of his fee and going for Rice is absurd. £100m might not get Rice anyway. I don't rate Phillips. He's older than Rodri and I think there are better players in Europe at a younger age that could challenge Rodri in a couple of years. But the price is good and the club are rumoured to want Bellingham next summer who will no doubt cost a pretty penny so we might be looking at some lower cost options to increase numbers in the squad. And that's a good thing. If we sign Phillips I'll give him my full support and hope he proves me wrong.