Kamala Harris

[Aphex]

What happened in Trump’s first tenure?
For the first time in the history of the US, the outgoing president tried to prevent the peaceful handover of power.
1. With a riot.
2. With a full blown attempt to forge the states’ certificates.
You think he will just shrug his shoulders when he loses this time?

What did Pelosi say? Why did Kamala say defund the police? Why did antifa go on the rampage?

So many questions, so little answers.

 

[KS55]

Okay, please quote me the FULL context of his demanding a "riot" on 'J6'. Not in isolation like when MSM takes his "bloodbath" statement and uses the phrase far from where he used the term.

As for "forging certificates", can you show me where Trump asked for this to be done? Thanks.

Now, bearing in mind, I do not like either of the extremely poor candidates on show, what I won't allow is one side of the battle pretending it is 'above the fray' in the political system. In fact, I daresay the Dems are showing good signs of what it does in other countries for political suppression of opponents.

The context of the riot is well known:
1. “We shall patriotically walk down….etc.”
2. No action to stop it while he sat eating burgers and watching tv. Plenty of testimony from those who were there. When it comes to trial, he is looking at up to 10 years imprisonment.
As for the certificates, his RICO trial will show the extent of his participation. Read the superseding indictment.
But you knew all that, you just can’t admit he has a case to answer (see the grand jury) which makes you a useless contrarian.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I see the pigeons I've blocked are out in force today. Boy, the Rodri injury must be really upsetting them.

Don't worry, little pigeons. It'll all be okay.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I see the pigeons I've blocked are out in force today. Boy, the Rodri injury must be really upsetting them.

Don't worry, little pigeons. It'll all be okay.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

That’s not even the problem this time! This time he ISN’T the Oresudent, he’s just a domestic terrorist!

No, the real threat is what he’ll do if elected, KNOWING he’s the President and much of his power is traditional, not Constitutionally spelled out. He already believed Article I gave him carte blanche and now his handpicked Heritage Foundation (read Project 2025!) SCOTUS Justices have given him immunity from prosecution that he will test the limits of! That alone is enough to want a Democratic House, Senate & WhiteHouse to overturn with legislation!

Kamala has talked about removing the filibuster to correct the Row scotus verdict.

I think she needs to go further and also correct presidential immunity.

And then go further and set up a scotus ethics review panel and discipline all the judges who were complicit in gifting Trump immunity that wasn't warranted. Setup term limits and remove the political appointment of judges.

 

[KS55]

The context of the riot is well known:
1. “We shall patriotically walk down….etc.”
2. No action to stop it while he sat eating burgers and watching tv. Plenty of testimony from those who were there. When it comes to trial, he is looking at up to 10 years imprisonment.
As for the certificates, his RICO trial will show the extent of his participation. Read the superseding indictment.
But you knew all that, you just can’t admit he has a case to answer (see the grand jury) which makes you a useless contrarian.

I’ve just realised, @Bigga does not understand what RICO means. If any person in the ring is convicted, ALL DEFENDANTS IN THE RING ARE GUILTY. So whether Trump asked it to be done is completely irrelevant. The prosecution do not need to show his personal involvement. Read the statute, dummy.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I'm not sure why some people feel the need to denigrate Harris or why some others almost need to elevate her to the sainthood. She's ok and I find myself warming to her as I see more of her, but she is a bit of a media construct or certainly her potential presidential persona is. For any of you under the impression that the next president may start or prevent ww3, your immediate concern should perhaps be that the current president is in that position for another few months at an incredibly volatile time. A president that probably gets lost on his way to the toilet.

 

[Bigga]

I want you to hold that thought in your head for one second, OK…


And use it here ^^^^

More FUD!

And, if I was actually concerned about WWIII, Trump is the LAST Chamberlain I’d want at the Resolute Desk!

He’d sell his Grandmother down the river for a buck!



Where have I expressed my view of WWIII?

It’s a nonsensical (and frankly, sexist) RWNJ talking point, because they THINK Trump is tough. He’s not, he’s a schoolyard bully who has always got away with it through blagging backed up by money.

On the world stage, when faced with ACTUAL SMART PEOPLE WITH REAL TOUGHNESS THEY CAN BACK UP, he’s a fawning sycophant looking for love and attention! “Please, guys, pick me! Pick me!”

The "interesting" line was sarcasm. Which you, obviously, don't understand.

I should spell things out in crayon, I think. Nice big letters for you.

You, CLEARLY, are ignoring the Dem Party ramping up actions in other countries, taking us to the brink of war. It's got FA to do with Trump as he's not in power and hasn't been for 4 years... and yet...

It's all his fault.

Not the current leadership who is stationing troops and weapons everywhere.

That's the 'disappearing trick' you conduct; the big issue right in front of your face!! It's pure ignorance at what is happening TODAY, not 4 years ago and not the fear mongering next year if Trump is in power.

You people are hell bent on war.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The "interesting" line was sarcasm. Which you, obviously, don't understand.

I should spell things out in crayon, I think. Nice big letters for you.

You, CLEARLY, are ignoring the Dem Party ramping up actions in other countries, taking us to the brink of war. It's got FA to do with Trump as he's not in power and hasn't been for 4 years... and yet...

It's all his fault.

Not the current leadership who is stationing troops and weapons everywhere.

That's the 'disappearing trick' you conduct; the big issue right in front of your face!! It's pure ignorance at what is happening TODAY, not 4 years ago and not the fear mongering next year if Trump is in power.

You people are hell bent on war.

I did find the dick Cheney endorsement of Kamala a cause for concern. I don't think Kamala supporters are 'hell bent on war', I just don't think they realise what they are potentially voting for. Not sure trump is much better, he may calm things in Europe but his unquestioning support for all things Israel is not good. Sadly it feels to me like the choice the American people have is not between war and peace, but just where they would like the war to start.

 

[Bigga]

The context of the riot is well known:
1. “We shall patriotically walk down….etc.”
2. No action to stop it while he sat eating burgers and watching tv. Plenty of testimony from those who were there. When it comes to trial, he is looking at up to 10 years imprisonment.
As for the certificates, his RICO trial will show the extent of his participation. Read the superseding indictment.
But you knew all that, you just can’t admit he has a case to answer (see the grand jury) which makes you a useless contrarian.

1.
That's not a quote in context.


2.
Okay, so when he's in court and convicted you'll be correct. Seems like they'd have him bang to rights, wouldn't they?

Don't see him doing any jail time, right now.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I did find the dick Cheney endorsement of Kamala a cause for concern.

I don't think it's because he's convinced she'll do what he has historically wanted policy-wise, mate.

 

[Bigga]

I’ve just realised, @Bigga does not understand what RICO means. If any person in the ring is convicted, ALL DEFENDANTS IN THE RING ARE GUILTY. So whether Trump asked it to be done is completely irrelevant. The prosecution do not need to show his personal involvement. Read the statute, dummy.

You're a fool.

You don't seem to understand people take words out of context all the time.

I asked you to post what was said and you haven't.

Post it, prove the context.

 

[mackenzie]

Your hypothetical lacks the information needed to answer it. Plus, being a hypothetical, it doesn’t require a response, especially when reality has already given us the answer.

It's ok thanks, some other posters have been less precious ;-)

There's been a few names mentioned and I'll be looking to see how they do in the short term.

 

[Aphex]

She’s the “clown” who kicked an actual clown all over that minefield while he set off explosion after explosion!

Let’s talk about illegal immigrants stealing and eating domestic cats that are actually in the owner’s basement shall we?

BOOM!!!

Oops, there goes another she tossed him on!!

Did you here the one about crowd size?

BOOM!!!

Oops, there goes another one!!

If you think that's more important than pandering to victim demographics to keep people believing they ARE victims then I pity you.

 

[Dax777]

I understand it all, but, using terms you should understand because you used the words…the question HAS no relevance…in context!

And, EVERY VOTER has the chance to express their displeasure about her rise to the nomination in November, if they so choose. So far, only RWNJs, most of whom don’t realize the current nomination process is a modern phenomenon, seem concerned.

I'm happy to let the voters decide. I'm not the one on a high horse pissing on the crowd and calling it rain.

You’re too intelligent to see this was not a normal situation, so the Party used what it had. If you don’t like how it happened, don’t vote for her. However, don’t pretend the concerns about Trump & democracy are anything to do with how Harris rose to lead the ticket. One is a fart in a bottle while the other is reaping the whirlwind!

I'm not voting for her. Just like if you don't like what Trump is you don't have to vote for him. Why are you stating the obvious like it's something special?

There are no concerns with Trump and Democracy. Period. If you don't like him, don't vote for him. That's more than a fair position.

There is neither a palace nor a coup, but the obfuscation and finger pointing in any direction except at Trump is fun to watch!

There was a coup. You have to be trying hard not to see it. Pelosi herself said Biden isn't talking to her. He repeated many times he is not withdrawing. He was pushed out period.

They r are all complicit in the obvious cover up of his decline if nothing else. Like I say, they'll do anything to save democracy. Including kill it while they are saving it.

Now feel free to go ahead and vote for Kamala. But miss me with the pretense.

Why are you concerned she is the nominee? Surely, if she has so egregiously “stolen democracy,” the Left AND Right will rise up against her to protect it, no?

I'm not concerned. Simply pointing out the hypocrisy. Just like I did 4 years ago when the people who thought Trump was in mental decline were happy to vote for the one guy who was in a worse state and lied about as much as Trump.

It's the hypocrisy!!!! Just vote who you want to vote for and stop pretending you stand on some moral high ground. Your don't.

Oh wait, that’s EXACTLY what is happening AGAINST TRUMP, NOT HARRIS!!!

What has everyone else got wrong, while you’ve seen right through it?! HAHAHA!

Everyone? You mean bluemoon? A grossly unrepresentative thread mostly populated by people in foreign countries? Yeah, I'm really worried about what the English think about America. Really worried. Lol

Indeed, and the whole world sees it…except the deluded. Look around…there’s one in every room. If you can’t find him, it’s you!

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. You are good at insults. Here's a cookie.

Thank goodness for that! I didn’t want to be impolite by so obviously feigning it!

And, lastly, if this is you “partying” we are going to need more alcohol. Not for you, you’re wasted enough…but for the rest of us!

You appear to have hitched you entire anti-“Trump is a threat to democracy” argument on how Democrats picked a nominee when Biden dropped out. It’s a great party trick, but if you’re punch drunk enough to think there is ANY existential threat from that, then you really are not smart enough to be at this party…

There are no existential threats. Period. Just 2 parties with 2 candidates. The only 2 likely to win.

The rest is just hogwash.

OR

…you know exactly the FUD you are attempting to create, which is totally misplaced and being attempted on the wrong person, even if you might grab a simpleton or two along the way.

I spend my entire working life dealing with supposedly intelligent, politically naive, morons and there’s not a FOX talking point I have not heard or debunked, for fun, while buffing my nails!

As the E-Trade kids say in their Pickle Ball commercial. “Thanks for coming to our clinic. First one’s free!”

Again, we get it. You are good at throwing insults. I already have you your cookie.

But pray tell, how exactly is Trump going to threaten Democracy?

What is he gonna do exactly? Go ahead, elaborate for the seemingly intelligent morons you've been schooling all your life.

How would Trump in 2028 subvert democracy if he wins in 2024?

Like I said, let's party. I'm here all day. :)

 

[Dax777]

The context of the riot is well known:
1. “We shall patriotically walk down….etc.”
2. No action to stop it while he sat eating burgers and watching tv. Plenty of testimony from those who were there. When it comes to trial, he is looking at up to 10 years imprisonment.
As for the certificates, his RICO trial will show the extent of his participation. Read the superseding indictment.
But you knew all that, you just can’t admit he has a case to answer (see the grand jury) which makes you a useless contrarian.

Where is @domalino to fact check when we need him?

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I’m tempted to join in but I’ve actually lost the will to live never mind debate.
How many days of this are left?
When is the election?

 

[moomba]

No concerns with Trump and democracy. He ha. Fucking hell.

Whether he wins or whether he loses I have huge concerns about the threat to US democracy from him and his culture.

And by the looks so do most of the people he worked with in his first term.

Not to mention my concerns about his racism, attitude to women, criminal past and present, declining mental state etc etc.

 

[moomba]

My side? I'm a centrist, actually slightly on the left. I don't treat political opinion as black and white like you or most others on here.

Of course you are.

 

[KS55]

Where is @domalino to fact check when we need him?

No answer of course. Why did you ask about Trump requesting the fake certificates when it is not relevant? Whether he asked or not makes no difference to a RICO indictment. Have you read Georgia’s statute and the indictment? A decent contrarian would know the relevant law. You don’t.
You’re a fake.