Karim Rekik

[Neville Kneville]

Did he play tonight?

Yes, not seen it though.

They kept a clean sheet though.

Cheers Nev.I'm still thinking this loan is pretty much a waste of time though,its not progression in my opinion......and that's what was required.

A really tough season in Italy, with some sinister baldy fucker next to him hissing at him when he runs out of position & teaching him how to be a complete bastard, would have been worth 3 seasons in Holland. I wonder if he's actually got it in mind just to stay at PSV in the future though ? He himself may feel that's his correct level rather than fighting with City's cbs for a place.

If that's the case, we could get first dibs on any kids they have which our scouts fancy, & do a deal.

 

[spinzer]

Did he play tonight?

Yes, not seen it though.

They kept a clean sheet though.

Cheers Nev.I'm still thinking this loan is pretty much a waste of time though,its not progression in my opinion......and that's what was required.

Id still call it progressing, maybe not as fast as it could be, but a steady upward curve. I year more in Holland will hopefully do him good and give him more of a commanding pressence with more senior football under his belt. Anyways, it will most likely increase his value, so if he doesn't make it for us, we can get some money out of him.

 

[FantasyIreland]

That's my concern with Rekik,has he chosen easy street? and what does that say about his character?

I might be doing him a huge injustice but I really am struggling with the logic,or ambition..... of returning to a sub standard environment.

Talking of talent,what has happened to Bakkali(sp)?

 

[Neville Kneville]

That's my concern with Rekik,has he chosen easy street? and what does that say about his character?

I might be doing him a huge injustice but I really am struggling with the logic,or ambition..... of returning to a sub standard environment.

Talking of talent,what has happened to Bakkali(sp)?

Now there's a question.

Allowing for the criminal defending in Holland being very flattering for attacking players, he looked the dog's bolocks.

They mentioned on one of the PSV games, something about him, possibly they said he's in some kind of dispute with the club & playing in the reserves but I can't swear I heard it right.

 

[spinzer]

That's my concern with Rekik,has he chosen easy street? and what does that say about his character?

I might be doing him a huge injustice but I really am struggling with the logic,or ambition..... of returning to a sub standard environment.

Talking of talent,what has happened to Bakkali(sp)?

Now there's a question.

Allowing for the criminal defending in Holland being very flattering for attacking players, he looked the dog's bolocks.

They mentioned on one of the PSV games, something about him, possibly they said he's in some kind of dispute with the club & playing in the reserves but I can't swear I heard it right.

He is indeed in dispute with the club - contract issues. But in the case of Bakkali, he did play very well for the first few games for PSV last season, but he did, along with the rest of the team, drop severely in form, and did not really shine again in that season.

 

[Neville Kneville]

That's my concern with Rekik,has he chosen easy street? and what does that say about his character?

I might be doing him a huge injustice but I really am struggling with the logic,or ambition..... of returning to a sub standard environment.

Talking of talent,what has happened to Bakkali(sp)?

Now there's a question.

Allowing for the criminal defending in Holland being very flattering for attacking players, he looked the dog's bolocks.

They mentioned on one of the PSV games, something about him, possibly they said he's in some kind of dispute with the club & playing in the reserves but I can't swear I heard it right.

He is indeed in dispute with the club - contract issues. But in the case of Bakkali, he did play very well for the first few games for PSV last season, but he did, along with the rest of the team, drop severely in form, and did not really shine again in that season.

Cheers.

Yeah I remember that being the case but he is two years younger than Depay for instance. Bakkali linked with Liverpool & Arse now, but I'm sure we were very strongly linked a while back, unless I'm imagining it ?

The thing that has impressed me with both those two, is not the videos of them dribbling/running past Dutch/European traffic cone defenders, (it's impossible for me to tell whether Scott Sinclair could do the same, as the defenders are normally so shit) but stuff like the two free kicks from Depay last week, & the whip Bakkali gets on the ball. That's something which has to be seen as evidence of talent.

 

[spinzer]

Now there's a question.

Allowing for the criminal defending in Holland being very flattering for attacking players, he looked the dog's bolocks.

They mentioned on one of the PSV games, something about him, possibly they said he's in some kind of dispute with the club & playing in the reserves but I can't swear I heard it right.

He is indeed in dispute with the club - contract issues. But in the case of Bakkali, he did play very well for the first few games for PSV last season, but he did, along with the rest of the team, drop severely in form, and did not really shine again in that season.

Cheers.

Yeah I remember that being the case but he is two years younger than Depay for instance. Bakkali linked with Liverpool & Arse now, but I'm sure we were very strongly linked a while back, unless I'm imagining it ?

The thing that has impressed me with both those two, is not the videos of them dribbling/running past Dutch/European traffic cone defenders, (it's impossible for me to tell whether Scott Sinclair could do the same, as the defenders are normally so shit) but stuff like the two free kicks from Depay last week, & the whip Bakkali gets on the ball. That's something which has to be seen as evidence of talent.

Yeah, we were so close to Bakkali that it almost hurts. He was on his way here on a plane to sign a contract when he was convinced by his dad to stay at PSV. At that time he had just won the titles of the worlds best talent awarded by Nike i think it was. I agree, Bakkali is a great great talent, pretty sure he is great with both feet and does actually have a pretty sweet strike to be fair. Both has a very bright future ahead of them!

 

[Neville Kneville]

He is indeed in dispute with the club - contract issues. But in the case of Bakkali, he did play very well for the first few games for PSV last season, but he did, along with the rest of the team, drop severely in form, and did not really shine again in that season.

Cheers.

Yeah I remember that being the case but he is two years younger than Depay for instance. Bakkali linked with Liverpool & Arse now, but I'm sure we were very strongly linked a while back, unless I'm imagining it ?

The thing that has impressed me with both those two, is not the videos of them dribbling/running past Dutch/European traffic cone defenders, (it's impossible for me to tell whether Scott Sinclair could do the same, as the defenders are normally so shit) but stuff like the two free kicks from Depay last week, & the whip Bakkali gets on the ball. That's something which has to be seen as evidence of talent.

Yeah, we were so close to Bakkali that it almost hurts. He was on his way here on a plane to sign a contract when he was convinced by his dad to stay at PSV. At that time he had just won the titles of the worlds best talent awarded by Nike i think it was. I agree, Bakkali is a great great talent, pretty sure he is great with both feet and does actually have a pretty sweet strike to be fair. Both has a very bright future ahead of them!

I just wonder about that. Is it definite that it was down to his Dad, & not PSV ?

When we went in for Zucculini, his form dropped a fair bit afterwards. Then it turns out we had actually agreed a potential deal & he signed eventually. If for instance Bakkali wanted to come to City & PSV prevented it, & he saw his arse, that would be a fair explanation of the unusal position he is in now. I have just read PSV quotes hinting that his heart isn't in it playing for them.

I wonder if we could still be in for him perhaps & this situation is related to that ?

 

[bluechampion7891]

That's my concern with Rekik,has he chosen easy street? and what does that say about his character?

I might be doing him a huge injustice but I really am struggling with the logic,or ambition..... of returning to a sub standard environment.

Talking of talent,what has happened to Bakkali(sp)?

pretty sure someone here mentioned that there was a possibility oh him joining up with Bielsa at OM? If true and he chose PSV than I am inclined to agree.

 

[spinzer]

Cheers.

Yeah I remember that being the case but he is two years younger than Depay for instance. Bakkali linked with Liverpool & Arse now, but I'm sure we were very strongly linked a while back, unless I'm imagining it ?

The thing that has impressed me with both those two, is not the videos of them dribbling/running past Dutch/European traffic cone defenders, (it's impossible for me to tell whether Scott Sinclair could do the same, as the defenders are normally so shit) but stuff like the two free kicks from Depay last week, & the whip Bakkali gets on the ball. That's something which has to be seen as evidence of talent.

Yeah, we were so close to Bakkali that it almost hurts. He was on his way here on a plane to sign a contract when he was convinced by his dad to stay at PSV. At that time he had just won the titles of the worlds best talent awarded by Nike i think it was. I agree, Bakkali is a great great talent, pretty sure he is great with both feet and does actually have a pretty sweet strike to be fair. Both has a very bright future ahead of them!

I just wonder about that. Is it definite that it was down to his Dad, & not PSV ?

When we went in for Zucculini, his form dropped a fair bit afterwards. Then it turns out we had actually agreed a potential deal & he signed eventually. If for instance Bakkali wanted to come to City & PSV prevented it, & he saw his arse, that would be a fair explanation of the unusal position he is in now. I have just read PSV quotes hinting that his heart isn't in it playing for them.

I wonder if we could still be in for him perhaps & this situation is related to that ?

At that time when he was linked intensely with us, he came out and said that he was on the plane with his dad on the way to Manchester to sign a contract when his dad convinced him that he should turn around and sign a pro contract with PSV instead. So i guess his dad was his biggest influence. I know who i would have listened to if it was me anyways.
But yeah, i've read the same quotes as you, that his heart pretty much isn't at PSV.

 

[BigOscar]

That's my concern with Rekik,has he chosen easy street? and what does that say about his character?

I might be doing him a huge injustice but I really am struggling with the logic,or ambition..... of returning to a sub standard environment.

Talking of talent,what has happened to Bakkali(sp)?

pretty sure someone here mentioned that there was a possibility oh him joining up with Bielsa at OM? If true and he chose PSV than I am inclined to agree.

It looks like Marseille are playing 3 at the back this year, so fuck that shit.

 

[bluechampion7891]

That's my concern with Rekik,has he chosen easy street? and what does that say about his character?

I might be doing him a huge injustice but I really am struggling with the logic,or ambition..... of returning to a sub standard environment.

Talking of talent,what has happened to Bakkali(sp)?

pretty sure someone here mentioned that there was a possibility oh him joining up with Bielsa at OM? If true and he chose PSV than I am inclined to agree.

It looks like Marseille are playing 3 at the back this year, so fuck that shit.

I really think that is Bielsa's system? The one Chile employed too at the WC? 3 at the back

 

[billymumphrey]

Great to see the Blue Moon kangaroo court has decided that this loan deal is rubbish based on hearsay and conjecture, and that the lad has bottled it by going to PSV.

Why don't we wait and see what happens?

We don't know what were the reasons why he chose PSV over others, or even if he had a choice, or what the prevailing conditions at these other clubs were. Maybe he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot in Italy and that was what drew him to PSV?

Playing time is critical for a loan - look at Guidetti. Securing this at the highest level is the best course of action. If he is able to get 80% playing time at PSV versus 40% anywhere else then he should stay at PSV - otherwise we should have just kept him at City and let him learn from training with Vinny and co.

But again all this is moot as we don't know all the intricacies of the deals on the table or what influenced his decision.

Here's a funny thought -how about we just support the lad eh?

 

[Centurions]

Great to see the Blue Moon kangaroo court has decided that this loan deal is rubbish based on hearsay and conjecture, and that the lad has bottled it by going to PSV.

Why don't we wait and see what happens?

We don't know what were the reasons why he chose PSV over others, or even if he had a choice, or what the prevailing conditions at these other clubs were. Maybe he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot in Italy and that was what drew him to PSV?

Playing time is critical for a loan - look at Guidetti. Securing this at the highest level is the best course of action. If he is able to get 80% playing time at PSV versus 40% anywhere else then he should stay at PSV - otherwise we should have just kept him at City and let him learn from training with Vinny and co.

But again all this is moot as we don't know all the intricacies of the deals on the table or what influenced his decision.

Here's a funny thought -how about we just support the lad eh?

Are you confused over how a discussion forum works?

 

[billymumphrey]

Great to see the Blue Moon kangaroo court has decided that this loan deal is rubbish based on hearsay and conjecture, and that the lad has bottled it by going to PSV.

Why don't we wait and see what happens?

We don't know what were the reasons why he chose PSV over others, or even if he had a choice, or what the prevailing conditions at these other clubs were. Maybe he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot in Italy and that was what drew him to PSV?

Playing time is critical for a loan - look at Guidetti. Securing this at the highest level is the best course of action. If he is able to get 80% playing time at PSV versus 40% anywhere else then he should stay at PSV - otherwise we should have just kept him at City and let him learn from training with Vinny and co.

But again all this is moot as we don't know all the intricacies of the deals on the table or what influenced his decision.

Here's a funny thought -how about we just support the lad eh?

Are you confused over how a discussion forum works?

Not at all. Typically though, a discussion is about facts, and events.

Not bullshit hypothesising whether or not he made the right decision based on even greater levels of bullshit and hearsay.

 

[Tron Coltrane]

Great to see the Blue Moon kangaroo court has decided that this loan deal is rubbish based on hearsay and conjecture, and that the lad has bottled it by going to PSV.

Why don't we wait and see what happens?

We don't know what were the reasons why he chose PSV over others, or even if he had a choice, or what the prevailing conditions at these other clubs were. Maybe he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot in Italy and that was what drew him to PSV?

Playing time is critical for a loan - look at Guidetti. Securing this at the highest level is the best course of action. If he is able to get 80% playing time at PSV versus 40% anywhere else then he should stay at PSV - otherwise we should have just kept him at City and let him learn from training with Vinny and co.

But again all this is moot as we don't know all the intricacies of the deals on the table or what influenced his decision.

Here's a funny thought -how about we just support the lad eh?

Are you confused over how a discussion forum works?

Not at all. Typically though, a discussion is about facts, and events.

Not bullshit hypothesising whether or not he made the right decision based on even greater levels of bullshit and hearsay.

I try to be as level-headed as any around here, but I have to say I think you've got it wrong.

I think courtrooms are the place for discussing facts and events. Online message boards are the perfect venue for bullshit hypothesizing. Just don't present your bullshit as writ and I think it's harmless to say "I feel like he's made a mistake in his decision making choosing PSV..." etc.

 

[billymumphrey]

Are you confused over how a discussion forum works?

Not at all. Typically though, a discussion is about facts, and events.

Not bullshit hypothesising whether or not he made the right decision based on even greater levels of bullshit and hearsay.

I try to be as level-headed as any around here, but I have to say I think you've got it wrong.

I think courtrooms are the place for discussing facts and events. Online message boards are the perfect venue for bullshit hypothesizing. Just don't present your bullshit as writ and I think it's harmless to say "I feel like he's made a mistake in his decision making choosing PSV..." etc.

I guess the thing that i disagree with is slating a kid for apparently turning down all these other great loan offers - when we have no idea whether or not there were a) any to begin with or b) if there were what the details were.

The questioning of his decision only started after someone posted a tweet (a tweet for fucks sake) saying he turned down Milan and Marseille.

Here's a selection of responses

i don't think he has chosen well and in all probability,against advice.

Its a bit of a double edged for sure,however,he has chosen the easy option for me.

he *is* playing in a micky mouse league whether you want to admit it or not.

'm still thinking this loan is pretty much a waste of time though,its not progression in my opinion......

A really tough season in Italy, with some sinister baldy fucker next to him hissing at him when he runs out of position & teaching him how to be a complete bastard, would have been worth 3 seasons in Holland.

That's my concern with Rekik,has he chosen easy street? and what does that say about his character?
I might be doing him a huge injustice but I really am struggling with the logic,or ambition..... of returning to a sub standard environment.

All of that based on a tweet which may or may not have any degree of truth to it.

Maybe it is true. Maybe it isn't. Who knows? Definitely not the people on this thread thats for sure.

And this last quote takes the proverbial

My beef with it is people bullshitting. He hasn't done anything to deserve the rep he's been given & people keep coming on just basically making shit up about his performances.

- when the same poster feels free to simply "make shit up" about the "facts" about what led him to make his loan decision.

To extend the cake analogy - you can't have your cake and eat it too...

 

[Neville Kneville]

Great to see the Blue Moon kangaroo court has decided that this loan deal is rubbish based on hearsay and conjecture, and that the lad has bottled it by going to PSV.

Why don't we wait and see what happens?

We don't know what were the reasons why he chose PSV over others, or even if he had a choice, or what the prevailing conditions at these other clubs were. Maybe he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot in Italy and that was what drew him to PSV?

Playing time is critical for a loan - look at Guidetti. Securing this at the highest level is the best course of action. If he is able to get 80% playing time at PSV versus 40% anywhere else then he should stay at PSV - otherwise we should have just kept him at City and let him learn from training with Vinny and co.

But again all this is moot as we don't know all the intricacies of the deals on the table or what influenced his decision.

Here's a funny thought -how about we just support the lad eh?

Woo hoo, go Karim go.

I want to see you playing for City next season, irrespective of if you are any good or not. I don't care, I just love you. In fact I love all of our young players, yes all of them & I want to see all of them in our team, not just 11, I want us to start with 150. They are all so wonderful. Let us never look at their performances with open mind again.

Now everyone join in:

I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

etc.

Happy ?

 

[Neville Kneville]

Just got back in the house switched on PSV as I'd forgotton to record it, saw it was 1-0 64th minute Rekik comes rushing out too late, stranded . Then a geezer runs straight past him in the box but fucks up his shot, then he comes rushing out again too late & is stranded.

All in the space of a minute. Since then PSV have mainly had the ball. Oh Vitesse just ran past his mates as if they weren't there & hit the post. How the fuck is this 1-0 ?

 

[Neville Kneville]

This dutch league is like watching City defending that goal Stoke scored,but for 90 mins at both ends.