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http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...-joorabchian-tevez-happy-stay-manchester-city
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...hian-vows-take-legal-action-over-tevez-claims
just listening to this interview... and have questions...
1)How can MUFC be allowed to have shares in a company who own players in South America when the Chief executive of MUFC who has been involved with the FA & the FA have outlawed 3rd party ownership ,this must be wrong?
2)Should David Bernstein open an inquiry together with EUFA to make sure 3 rd party ownership is stopped in Europe they are taking millions out of the game...this is a bigger problem than FFP as in our case the owners are investing in the game. (the example given by Kia that Passtore his club wanted 20 million he got sold for 40 million & it was the 3 rd party owner who made the extra 20 million !)
3) How much of the United profit came from 3rd party ownership?
http://www.imscouting.com/global-ne...united-s-relationship-with-traffic-agen/2061/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz1HTHUXnuX
The five are now visiting Dutch champions Twente, who United plan to use as a holding club for the boys to gain European Union passports.
Midfielders Gladstony and Rafael Leao will be 18 later this year — the age at which they can legally sign for a club outside Brazil — but tight immigration laws in England mean they are unlikely to be granted work permits as, unlike United defenders Rafael or Fabio da Silva, they have not even represented their country at youth level.
This is where Twente come in. Holland will happily let the boys play there, where they can stay until they qualify for an EU passport or get enough international experience for a UK work permit.
Desportivo Brasil is owned by sprawling South American football company Traffic, whose president of international business Jochen Losch told Sportsmail: ‘Twente are a partner, helping United to resolve the problem of their EU passports. For two reasons it’s good that a player goes first to Holland. First, after two or three years he’s considered to be European. And of course it’s easier to play in the Dutch league than the Premier League.’
The players all live inside a multimillion-pound training centre in Porto Feliz, a 90-minute drive from bustling Sao Paulo where they enjoy better training facilities than at most major Brazilian clubs.
But Desportivo Brasil do not dream of winning the league title or the Copa Libertadores; their raison d’etre is to have the best youth teams in South America and sell on their talent.
The designated United players are given extra English lessons, sessions with a psychologist about being away from home and visits to the Carrington training complex they may one day call home.
If United go through with a signing, they pay a set fee, based on a player’s position rather than ability.
The Brazilian academy, set up by Traffic, then retain a hefty 50 per cent sell-on clause.
Losch said: ‘Manchester United look for young players in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. If they find a good one they come to us. We’ll get the player, register him with Desportivo Brasil, and we have a contract with United that they have an option to buy this player at 18 for a fixed amount.
Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1369316/Manchester-Uniteds-new-recruits-Brazil.html#ixzz1WmU6OiMx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1WmU6OiMx</a>
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nchester-united-are-raping-brazilian-football
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...hian-vows-take-legal-action-over-tevez-claims
just listening to this interview... and have questions...
1)How can MUFC be allowed to have shares in a company who own players in South America when the Chief executive of MUFC who has been involved with the FA & the FA have outlawed 3rd party ownership ,this must be wrong?
2)Should David Bernstein open an inquiry together with EUFA to make sure 3 rd party ownership is stopped in Europe they are taking millions out of the game...this is a bigger problem than FFP as in our case the owners are investing in the game. (the example given by Kia that Passtore his club wanted 20 million he got sold for 40 million & it was the 3 rd party owner who made the extra 20 million !)
3) How much of the United profit came from 3rd party ownership?
http://www.imscouting.com/global-ne...united-s-relationship-with-traffic-agen/2061/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz1HTHUXnuX
The five are now visiting Dutch champions Twente, who United plan to use as a holding club for the boys to gain European Union passports.
Midfielders Gladstony and Rafael Leao will be 18 later this year — the age at which they can legally sign for a club outside Brazil — but tight immigration laws in England mean they are unlikely to be granted work permits as, unlike United defenders Rafael or Fabio da Silva, they have not even represented their country at youth level.
This is where Twente come in. Holland will happily let the boys play there, where they can stay until they qualify for an EU passport or get enough international experience for a UK work permit.
Desportivo Brasil is owned by sprawling South American football company Traffic, whose president of international business Jochen Losch told Sportsmail: ‘Twente are a partner, helping United to resolve the problem of their EU passports. For two reasons it’s good that a player goes first to Holland. First, after two or three years he’s considered to be European. And of course it’s easier to play in the Dutch league than the Premier League.’
The players all live inside a multimillion-pound training centre in Porto Feliz, a 90-minute drive from bustling Sao Paulo where they enjoy better training facilities than at most major Brazilian clubs.
But Desportivo Brasil do not dream of winning the league title or the Copa Libertadores; their raison d’etre is to have the best youth teams in South America and sell on their talent.
The designated United players are given extra English lessons, sessions with a psychologist about being away from home and visits to the Carrington training complex they may one day call home.
If United go through with a signing, they pay a set fee, based on a player’s position rather than ability.
The Brazilian academy, set up by Traffic, then retain a hefty 50 per cent sell-on clause.
Losch said: ‘Manchester United look for young players in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. If they find a good one they come to us. We’ll get the player, register him with Desportivo Brasil, and we have a contract with United that they have an option to buy this player at 18 for a fixed amount.
Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1369316/Manchester-Uniteds-new-recruits-Brazil.html#ixzz1WmU6OiMx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1WmU6OiMx</a>
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nchester-united-are-raping-brazilian-football