Kolo Toure

[Ethan23]

How do you think mancini will do it? Personally i think kolo should play all European games assuming he's fit. However, im not sure about the premier league, i think Mancini will literally just wait for a reason to replace him for Lescott as i think deep down Toure is a better defender.

But what would you do, wait for Lescott's form to dip then stick him in, or just be a ruthless bastard and put him straight back in the team. The problem with the latter is it sends out bad signals as far as getting picked on merit goes and its admittedly very harsh on joleon. However what happens if lescotts form doesn't drop? is kolo realistically gonna sit on the bench through out the whole premier league season, it may also upset yaya.

Decisions Decisions ...

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I wouldn't pick him unless there are injuries. For all Lescott's ball playing deficiencies, he is stronger in the air. Why change a defence that did so well last season?

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

I like Lescott he has really pulled his finger out lately...... buuuuuuuuut..... The thing that I still hate about Lescott is that he is really prone to mistakes and fair enough every player makes the odd mistake here and there but when Lescott makes them he costs us goals for every mistake he makes and thats pretty much the only thing that pisses me off about him.

Personally I'd rather have Gary Cahill but for £20M or what ever Bolton want they can go suck a fart...

 

[Jumanji]

Would you rather have a ball playing CB like Kolo or one that purely relies on strength (Lescott) for European games?

 

[bluealf]

I dont normally go in for bashing our players buth e shouldnt get anywhere near the first team tbh, he was very dodgy at the start of his City career and then had a steady patch but was awful up until he got caught with the drugs, certainly they wer'nt performance enhancing.

 

[mrt4919]

I wouldn't pick him unless there are injuries. For all Lescott's ball playing deficiencies, he is stronger in the air. Why change a defence that did so well last season?

We have conceded 5 goals in the last 3 games including the Charity Shield.
Did not think our defence was capable of throwing away a 2-0 lead especially against the rags but we did.
Allowed Bolton to plunder 2 goals as well.

Our defence was outstanding last season but its not last season and so far its shabby and needs shaking up.

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Would you rather have a ball playing CB like Kolo or one that purely relies on strength (Lescott) for European games?

It's like asking would you prefer a kick in the bollocks or a fist up your arse??? Either one is just as painfull as the other...<br /><br />-- Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:16 pm --<br /><br />

I wouldn't pick him unless there are injuries. For all Lescott's ball playing deficiencies, he is stronger in the air. Why change a defence that did so well last season?

We have conceded 5 goals in the last 3 games including the Charity Shield.
Did not think our defence was capable of throwing away a 2-0 lead especially against the rags but we did.
Allowed Bolton to plunder 2 goals as well.

Our defence was outstanding last season but its not last season and so far its shabby and needs shaking up.

3 of them goals was poor marking by Lescott as well

 

[leighton]

I think at times Lescott has struggled a bit this season. In my opinion he was poor for the goals we conceded at Bolton. He has to show he deserves to keep his place in the team longterm. The Spurs game for Lescott is vital. As for Kolo I think he will get his chance to reclaim his place in the team. I dont think either player will be there longterm. I would hope we are looking for a replacement for both to be fair to play alongside Vinny. I dont know if Savic will be used as a centre back for us if he is he needs to play a few games beside Vinny and I wouldnt mind seeing him and Vinny being paired together in some of the up coming games.

 

[BlueJill]

I think at times Lescott has struggled a bit this season. In my opinion he was poor for the goals we conceded at Bolton. He has to show he deserves to keep his place in the team longterm. The Spurs game for Lescott is vital. As for Kolo I think he will get his chance to reclaim his place in the team. I dont think either player will be there longterm. I would hope we are looking for a replacement for both to be fair to play alongside Vinny. I dont know if Savic will be used as a centre back for us if he is he needs to play a few games beside Vinny and I wouldnt mind seeing him and Vinny being paired together in some of the up coming games.

Both are poor options for where we want to be, though I expect we will have to wait until next year for our CDs to get to the point where they are as good as our current attack, midfield, and GK. I expect they both will get some time with Savic slowly getting more and more playing time.

Next year at this time it will be Boyata and Savic fighting for that spot.

 

[Jumanji]

It won't take Savic long if he's given the opportunity. After all, even out of position at right back, he was the only one Nasri & Co couldn't fuck with in that CL match.

 

[mrt4919]

Would you rather have a ball playing CB like Kolo or one that purely relies on strength (Lescott) for European games?

It's like asking would you prefer a kick in the bollocks or a fist up your arse??? Either one is just as painfull as the other...

-- Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:16 pm --

I wouldn't pick him unless there are injuries. For all Lescott's ball playing deficiencies, he is stronger in the air. Why change a defence that did so well last season?

We have conceded 5 goals in the last 3 games including the Charity Shield.
Did not think our defence was capable of throwing away a 2-0 lead especially against the rags but we did.
Allowed Bolton to plunder 2 goals as well.

Our defence was outstanding last season but its not last season and so far its shabby and needs shaking up.

3 of them goals was poor marking by Lescott as well

I realised that but did not want to bury the guy, do feel that Lescott is over reliant on De Jong covering for him where as Kompany does not and that leaves him exposed.
Either way the defence for some reason is weaker so far this season and not noted by the feckin media,
It may be we are pushing forward harder so the balance has changed but I doubt it, something or some one is not quite right.

 

[Jumanji]

↑ You have deduced this in just 2 matches? Got to say, you're fucking brilliant then. -.-

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Would you rather have a ball playing CB like Kolo or one that purely relies on strength (Lescott) for European games?

It's like asking would you prefer a kick in the bollocks or a fist up your arse??? Either one is just as painfull as the other...

-- Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:16 pm --

We have conceded 5 goals in the last 3 games including the Charity Shield.
Did not think our defence was capable of throwing away a 2-0 lead especially against the rags but we did.
Allowed Bolton to plunder 2 goals as well.

Our defence was outstanding last season but its not last season and so far its shabby and needs shaking up.

3 of them goals was poor marking by Lescott as well

I realised that but did not want to bury the guy, do feel that Lescott is over reliant on De Jong covering for him where as Kompany does not and that leaves him exposed.
Either way the defence for some reason is weaker so far this season and not noted by the feckin media,
It may be we are pushing forward harder so the balance has changed but I doubt it, something or some one is not quite right.

I think last season our defence had alot of help from our midfield i.e like you said De Jong or even Barry but now Mancini want's us to get those extra 15 goals this season he wants us to press more and win by a bigger margain, unfortuantly this means our midifeld helping out our strikers leaving our defence exposed and I think our defence got to cushy last season having our midfield helping them out on occasion and now they are like a scared little boy who has just had his training wheels taken off his bike, but they need to learn how to work as a unit we saw that they can do it last season the only difference is they won't get a much cover from our midifeld as they did last season...<br /><br />-- Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:44 pm --<br /><br />

↑ You have deduced this in just 2 matches? Got to say, you're fucking brilliant then. -.-

I assume you mean me??? After all I am fuckin' brilliant :-)

 

[ramsdale4]

Lescott has been nothing short of excellent the last 6 months. People say he is prone to mistakes, but I cant think of many, if any really. Being beaten to the ball in the air once by Kevin Davies doesn't really qualify you as someone who makes a lot of mistakes. If anything Kompany has been at fault more times than Lescott recently, but I forget, Kompany is untouchable.

 

[Jumanji]

I think last season our defence had alot of help from our midfield i.e like you said De Jong or even Barry but now Mancini want's us to get those extra 15 goals this season he wants us to press more and win by a bigger margain, unfortuantly this means our midifeld helping out our strikers leaving our defence exposed and I think our defence got to cushy last season having our midfield helping them out on occasion and now they are like a scared little boy who has just had his training wheels taken off his bike, but they need to learn how to work as a unit we saw that they can do it last season the only difference is they won't get a much cover from our midifeld as they did last season...

They'll get that cover Munchen away ;)

I assume you mean me??? After all I am fuckin' brilliant :-)

Not you.

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Lescott has been nothing short of excellent the last 6 months. People say he is prone to mistakes, but I cant think of many, if any really. Being beaten to the ball in the air once by Kevin Davies doesn't really qualify you as someone who makes a lot of mistakes. If anything Kompany has been at fault more times than Lescott recently, but I forget, Kompany is untouchable.

I remember LEscott v rags left SMalling on his own 6 yards infront of goal, which was the game where Lescott headed it backwards into the oponents path and they scored??? I can't remember but it was last season. Also Lescott has a habbit of letting strikers getting infront of him too easily, I'm not trying to slate him like I said I think he really has pulled his finger out but the guy is so much like Dunne, quality but when he fucks up he fucks up big...

 

[Vienna_70]

I can't for the life of me understand the stick Lescott gets from City fans.

Since he came back into the team - long before Kolo was suspended - he has been nothing short of outstanding.

Central defensive pairings take time to develop, but when they are allowed to flourish, they can result in the whole becoming better than the sum of the two parts, eg. Dunne and Distin, who developed a fantastic partnership.

 

[Georgian Maestro]

Lescott has been nothing short of excellent the last 6 months. People say he is prone to mistakes, but I cant think of many, if any really. Being beaten to the ball in the air once by Kevin Davies doesn't really qualify you as someone who makes a lot of mistakes. If anything Kompany has been at fault more times than Lescott recently, but I forget, Kompany is untouchable.

I remember LEscott v rags left SMalling on his own 6 yards infront of goal, which was the game where Lescott headed it backwards into the oponents path and they scored??? I can't remember but it was last season. Also Lescott has a habbit of letting strikers getting infront of him too easily, I'm not trying to slate him like I said I think he really has pulled his finger out but the guy is so much like Dunne, quality but when he fucks up he fucks up big...

Completely agree.
Lescott had a strong end to the season and i was happy for him. But he is prone to making a big mistake and his ability on the ball is poor. He was bought as an improvement on Richard Dunne but the truth is he's not, in fact they're very similar players. 24m was a joke

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Lescott has been nothing short of excellent the last 6 months. People say he is prone to mistakes, but I cant think of many, if any really. Being beaten to the ball in the air once by Kevin Davies doesn't really qualify you as someone who makes a lot of mistakes. If anything Kompany has been at fault more times than Lescott recently, but I forget, Kompany is untouchable.

I remember LEscott v rags left SMalling on his own 6 yards infront of goal, which was the game where Lescott headed it backwards into the oponents path and they scored??? I can't remember but it was last season. Also Lescott has a habbit of letting strikers getting infront of him too easily, I'm not trying to slate him like I said I think he really has pulled his finger out but the guy is so much like Dunne, quality but when he fucks up he fucks up big...

Completely agree.
Lescott had a strong end to the season and i was happy for him. But he is prone to making a big mistake and his ability on the ball is poor. He was bought as an improvement on Richard Dunne but the truth is he's not, in fact they're very similar players. 24m was a joke

Oh god please don't remind me, Mark Hughes and his imperfection of having unlimited funds at his disposal.....

I said to my dad earlier today that Lescott looks panicky on the ball his composure is unbelievably poor when under pressure he just hoofs it anywhere without looking where as Kompany is a lot more cool and collective. I think Savic and Boyata are 2 years away from competing in our first team but we defo need a more composed centre back next to Vinnie, either that or put Zabba at centre back??? actually forget that probably a stupid idea.

 

[ramsdale4]

Lescott has been nothing short of excellent the last 6 months. People say he is prone to mistakes, but I cant think of many, if any really. Being beaten to the ball in the air once by Kevin Davies doesn't really qualify you as someone who makes a lot of mistakes. If anything Kompany has been at fault more times than Lescott recently, but I forget, Kompany is untouchable.

I remember LEscott v rags left SMalling on his own 6 yards infront of goal, which was the game where Lescott headed it backwards into the oponents path and they scored??? I can't remember but it was last season. Also Lescott has a habbit of letting strikers getting infront of him too easily, I'm not trying to slate him like I said I think he really has pulled his finger out but the guy is so much like Dunne, quality but when he fucks up he fucks up big...

Completely agree.
Lescott had a strong end to the season and i was happy for him. But he is prone to making a big mistake and his ability on the ball is poor. He was bought as an improvement on Richard Dunne but the truth is he's not, in fact they're very similar players. 24m was a joke

I remember when Kompany dithered and Nani took the ball off him to score, I remember when Kompany Was beaten to the ball by Osman for Everton to beat us yet again, I remember when Carragher today dropped a bollock to allow Bolton to score. In the same game the ball bounced in front of Cahill and over his head. I remember when Vidic let Yaya slip past him to concede a goal in the semi final of the FA Cup, and its happened to him countless times before. I saw Ivanovic and Terry have a mare today on MotD.

These are all great defenders (ok maybe not Carragher), but my point is all defenders make mistakes, week after week, but we know that they are all very good if not world class players. So why are you not allowing Lescott the same luxury?